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Unsworth Vs Musk defamation trial

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I suspect that Musk's team will use the threat of that in order to try to deter further action from Unsworth.

This is also a warning shot to deter other "nuisance lawsuits": Elon is playing hardball and won't settle just to avoid embarrassment and litigation expenses.

The mini-submarine was an act of kindness, and Unsworth turned it into a negative narrative by successfully trolling Elon on TV. No way would Elon settle with him, and the $190m figure made it clear that it was only about the money for Unsworth.
 
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more from her: janewells on Twitter

"Jury foreman told us Unsworth did not prove his case. He did not meet all the criteria necessary to prove defamation. There are five criteria : musk said it to others besides unworth, that reasonable person would would think it was about unsworth"

"That reasonable person would think he was calling unsworth a pedophile, that it was false, that musk didn’t take reasonable care to determine if it was true. Which criterion wasn’t met? “I can’t remember” the foreman said."

"Foreman is an engineer with a bachelors degree."

Maybe just because they have to prove harm to the person or entity who is the subject of the statements and nobody believed Unsworth was harmed by Musk's ironically butthurt response to Unsworth's comment, so they used the South African idiom line as an excuse to call no damages.
 

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From Twitter: Here’s Vernon Unsworth leaving court. He says he’ll respect the jury verdict and “take it on the chin.”

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Ahahaha, Unsworth is going to regret it when he sees how much Elon's lawyer charges.

Is Ars Technica melting down yet? They love Elon so much over there...
I doubt Musk is going to sue for costs. He'll just be happy that he got a verdict of Butthurt and can get back to work. Suing would just make him look like a total dick.
 

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Maybe just because they have to prove harm to the person or entity who is the subject of the statements and nobody believed Unsworth was harmed by Musk's ironically butthurt response to Unsworth's comment, so they used the South African idiom line as an excuse to call no damages.

According to Ryan Mac, he interviewed a juror (who happened to also be an attorney and Tesla owner). The case failed immediately on one of the five points, so they didn't even get into the debatable points. That point was "acquiantance". That is: if a person read Musk's tweet, would they understand, without having to do additional research, who he was talking about? The answer was no, so that point failed, and thus there was no point in debating the case further.
 

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This whole thing tarnished my image of Elon forever. Billionaire calling someone a pedophile with no evidence, pretty much the worst type of accusation you can make about someone. Then gloats about getting away with it...

I guess we're used to Billionaires crapping on little people and smiling about it these days. Too bad Elon has joined camp.

He's a visionary... and a jerk.

Can't have much respect for the Tesla sycophants defending such behavior either.
 

aaron0k

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The mini-submarine was an act of kindness, and Unsworth turned it into a negative narrative by successfully trolling Elon on TV. No way would Elon settle with him, and the $190m figure made it clear that it was only about the money for Unsworth.

Unsworth saves kids. Elon saves his ego. Yay Elon!

At the very least, Unsworth hopefully cleared his name from such a horrible accusation. Elon dared him to sue him because he thought evidence would come out supporting his pedo claim. That didn't happen.

Elon could afford great lawyers. OJ as well.
 

sparcs

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Elon could afford great lawyers. OJ as well.
a tweet throwing an insult is totally the same as OJ...

lol

P.S. None of us are defending Elon's behavior, but your anger prevents you from seeing that. We just realize that this is stuff from 2018 and Elon has shown his remorse for it. We allow people to move on from their past mistakes.
 
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theschnell

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Unsworth saves kids. Elon saves his ego. Yay Elon!

At the very least, Unsworth hopefully cleared his name from such a horrible accusation. Elon dared him to sue him because he thought evidence would come out supporting his pedo claim. That didn't happen.

Elon could afford great lawyers. OJ as well.

Unsworth saved no one directly. He provided a map of the cave which was very helpful, but that’s still a far cry from actually saving someone.
 
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