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Unveiling on Oct 17th

What's your best bet on what Tesla will reveal on Oct 17th?

  • Autopilot 2.0

    Votes: 233 36.4%
  • Model 3 - Part 2 (better-looking face, Head up display driving w/o wheel etc)

    Votes: 65 10.2%
  • Non-performance 100D (world's longest range EV)

    Votes: 100 15.6%
  • 65 kwh/ 80 kwh battery for Model S/X (60/75 will be removed)

    Votes: 11 1.7%
  • Model Y (small SUV)

    Votes: 72 11.3%
  • Tesla Semi

    Votes: 15 2.3%
  • Tesla Bus

    Votes: 12 1.9%
  • Tesla Pick-up truck

    Votes: 11 1.7%
  • Faster/better supercharger (200 kw charging, or charging snake)

    Votes: 52 8.1%
  • Iron Man metal suit

    Votes: 69 10.8%

  • Total voters
    640

Garlan Garner

Banned
Mar 31, 2016
11,351
6,062
Chicagoland
This raises a lot of questions...

1. what about the just introduced radar-focused AP? Sounds like the new HW will be relying on cameras much more again
2. the fact that apparently all of the current AP features won't work hints to a complete re-haul of the AP architecture (related to point 1)
3. what about sensor redundancy?
4. How will charging work in the L5 world?

All feels "unfinished" and rushed somehow...
Doesn't seem rushed to me at all.
 

Xminus6

Member
Sep 3, 2015
697
472
Bay Area, CA
So... not to rain on any parades... but straw poll: if you are taking delivery of an S or X with the new hardware, how do you feel about the fact that when you get it, you might not be able to use:
  • automatic emergency breaking
  • collision warning
  • lane holding
  • active cruise control
All features that, last time I checked, were pretty much among the reasons why anyone would want to pay for autopilot.

What are your thoughts?
It all depends on how long it takes them to tally up the required amount of miles. I'm right in this boat as my Model X order will be confirmed on Friday. I really didn't want to upgrade from my Model S (pre-AP) until the new AP suite was introduced. So it looks like I'm timing it reasonably well.

I was considering buying an inventory car that I test drove last weekend but that's obviously out the window now. I can wait for better AP performance knowing that I'll benefit from it for the majority of my ownership even if it's inconvenient for a couple months (or so).
 

drannie

Member
Oct 16, 2016
6
0
LONDON
FFS. My car was built end September as is currently on a boat to Holland for drive train and final work. Have I metaphorically missed the boat! Email to now over flowing DS inbox.
 

MorrisonHiker

S 100D 2021.4.15
Mar 8, 2015
9,582
8,796
Colorado
$5000 for Enhanced Autopilot + $3000 for Full self driving

Sounds like Enhanced Autopilot is the trifocal camera plus the rear camera. Full self driving enables 4 other cameras and can be enabled at a later date.

Some Superchargers will have automatic charging connection capabilities.
 
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Garlan Garner

Banned
Mar 31, 2016
11,351
6,062
Chicagoland
So... not to rain on any parades... but straw poll: if you are taking delivery of an S or X with the new hardware, how do you feel about the fact that when you get it, you might not be able to use:
  • automatic emergency breaking
  • collision warning
  • lane holding
  • active cruise control
All features that, last time I checked, were pretty much among the reasons why anyone would want to pay for autopilot.

What are your thoughts?
You are raining on a lot of parades. You have no reference that you will not be able to use anything.
 

rog

Member
May 30, 2015
295
158
Connecticut
Incremental improvements has be Tesla's practice and this is not an exception.

Incremental - sure. But it has been something like what - 6 weeks? - when the switch away from cameras and focusing on radar was made (saying that that would improve AP a lot), and now things will go back to mainly cameras (my interpretation)?

Oh, and let me add another question:

4. by when does Tesla expect to have current level of AP features available again on the new platform?
 

Mkorpal

Member
Mar 17, 2016
961
2,991
Denver
FFS. My car was built end September as is currently on a boat to Holland for drive train and final work. Have I metaphorically missed the boat! Email to now over flowing DS inbox.
Who the hell knows. I know for sure if it were me, I'd be calling your reps up tomorrow to find out. It's a pretty massive swing in re-sale value.
 

Gwgan

Almost a wagon
Aug 11, 2013
2,850
2,111
Maine
From new Model X page. 4 cameras for $5k, add $3 for full autonomy.
Wasn't that promised along with the folding middle seats?
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ttupper92618

Member
Apr 7, 2016
138
162
Irvine, CA
You are raining on a lot of parades. You have no reference that you will not be able to use anything.

Yeah, I do... because their blog states exactly that:

"Before activating the features enabled by the new hardware, we will further calibrate the system using millions of miles of real-world driving to ensure significant improvements to safety and convenience. While this is occurring, Teslas with new hardware will temporarily lack certain features currently available on Teslas with first-generation Autopilot hardware, including some standard safety features such as automatic emergency braking, collision warning, lane holding and active cruise control."
 

Owner

Active Member
Dec 20, 2012
1,542
324
San Francisco Bay Area
For those with existing AP cars <I have a pre-AP vintage>, you may get a car with a lot of extra hardware but it will likely be quite a while before you can legally drive them while sleeping.
 

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