Update on AP Camera Update for Older S/X Vehicles

[Padelford]

Many may have seen Elon's recent tweet informing those of us with older (2016-2017) model X and S vehicles that we won't get FSD Beta because our AP cameras are out of date. He also tweeted that Tesla would provide us with a free camera update. Having HW3 doesn't matter.

I called the national Tesla support number and asked about this today. The nice lady told me they'd just received a bulletin about this, and there will be a free camera update offered. She said my vehicle qualifies based on my VIN, and we'll be notified either thru a letter or e-mail about the update when Tesla is ready to do the work.

Meanwhile, I'll keep working on my score.

 

[Tesomega]

Do you think Driver Monitoring camera will be required for FSD as well?

 

[gaspi101]

Many may have seen Elon's recent tweet informing those of us with older (2016-2017) model X and S vehicles that we won't get FSD Beta because our AP cameras are out of date. He also tweeted that Tesla would provide us with a free camera update. Having HW3 doesn't matter.

I called the national Tesla support number and asked about this today. The nice lady told me they'd just received a bulletin about this, and there will be a free camera update offered. She said my vehicle qualifies based on my VIN, and we'll be notified either thru a letter or e-mail about the update when Tesla is ready to do the work.

Meanwhile, I'll keep working on my score.

Good on you for taking the initiative. This is great news for many!

 

[Padelford]

Do you think Driver Monitoring camera will be required for FSD as well?

Yes. It seems to be an important part of the 3/Y FSD beta setup. Which means that the entire windshield camera assembly will get replaced, not just some optical sensors in it.

 

[Tam]

Do you think Driver Monitoring camera will be required for FSD as well?

Since there 3 front cameras inside a case, it seems it's an easy job to add on a case that includes a cabin camera as well.

 

[TresLA]

Do you think Driver Monitoring camera will be required for FSD as well?

Perhaps they will for future FSD beta testers, but at least in the past there are S & X FSD beta testers from a year ago without in cabin cameras.

 

[EVRider-FL]

Since there 3 front cameras inside a case, it seems it's an easy job to add on a case that includes a cabin camera as well.

Did anyone from Tesla say anything about adding an interior camera to cars without it? I haven’t read that anywhere. There are plenty of cars with the latest AP cameras that don’t have interior cameras.

 

[Saabstory88]

Did anyone from Tesla say anything about adding an interior camera to cars without it? I haven’t read that anywhere. There are plenty of cars with the latest AP cameras that don’t have interior cameras.

It would be difficult to add another camera. Each camera in these vehicles uses and individual FPD-Link III cable which provides data and power. These are not packet switched network, you can't just add cameras where there is not wiring. The current wiring path for the camera cluster takes the cables through the headliner, down the A pillar behind the passenger side airbags. The current mass connector into the dash harness may not even have the extra pins to allow another video line to be patched without changing the dash harness. On top of major wiring harness replacement, and/or modification, you would also have to design and produce a new housing to mount the interior cam. So sure, since the HW3 driving computer has a populated selfie cam connector, it would be technically possible to add it, however we are talking about taking the entire interior apart for days of labor, all of which Tesla must pay for out of pocket, to implement a change that is not required by law (as these are not new cars). Seems doubtful.

 

[asterothe]

Yes. It seems to be an important part of the 3/Y FSD beta setup. Which means that the entire windshield camera assembly will get replaced, not just some optical sensors in it.

No. I have no cabin camera (2.5HW originally from 9/2017) but I got the FSD beta today. Cabin camera did not stop it.

 

[hybridbear]

Many may have seen Elon's recent tweet informing those of us with older (2016-2017) model X and S vehicles that we won't get FSD Beta because our AP cameras are out of date. He also tweeted that Tesla would provide us with a free camera update. Having HW3 doesn't matter.

I called the national Tesla support number and asked about this today. The nice lady told me they'd just received a bulletin about this, and there will be a free camera update offered. She said my vehicle qualifies based on my VIN, and we'll be notified either thru a letter or e-mail about the update when Tesla is ready to do the work.

Meanwhile, I'll keep working on my score.

Did they tell you which cameras will be replaced? Is it really going to be 7 with only the rear camera being unchanged? What about the other hardware changes with AP2.5 for redundancy?

 

[Padelford]

Did they tell you which cameras will be replaced? Is it really going to be 7 with only the rear camera being unchanged? What about the other hardware changes with AP2.5 for redundancy?

The rep didn’t tell me which cameras were to be replaced.

 

[misdemeanor]

A good write up here:

Wiki - FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

I had already upgraded the cameras in my 17 Model X for better dashcam video mo the ago, and didn’t get the Beta. Obviously the car’s config also needs to be updated. Went to the local Service Center, and asked them to update the config to reflect the updated cameras. They refused. I got the...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[F.Smolenski]

As I indicated first in another thread, I too called customer service this past Monday and talked to a gentlemen who indicated that yes, I would need to get the camera(s) update; that there was no plan or schedule at the moment but it would be covered by my FSD package and that Tesla would send an email out when they were available. My thought right now is to monitor conversations as to the availability of camera installations and to schedule a service appointment every few weeks/month until I get in, even if I don't hear by email.

 

[chadm369]

I had a tentative appointment to upgrade my cameras this week, but it got pushed back today. They said they don't even have the ability to order parts yet.

Has anyone here been able to upgrade their cameras yet?

On another note though, the rep I was talking to did confirm that we don't need to get the selfie camera, it's just the exterior camera upgrades.

 

[swt2c]

I don't think anyone have been able to upgrade their cameras for free yet. There are some who have bought the cameras themselves and/or got them from a salvaged vehicle. You may want to follow this thread: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/fsd’s-earliest-adopters-find-themselves-again-deprioritized-and-forgotten.243556/

 

[chadm369]

I don't think anyone have been able to upgrade their cameras for free yet. There are some who have bought the cameras themselves and/or got them from a salvaged vehicle. You may want to follow this thread: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/fsd’s-earliest-adopters-find-themselves-again-deprioritized-and-forgotten.243556/

Thank you, but unfortunately that thread seems to have been taken over by people arguing about whether or not it's justified to be mad at Tesla over this. This thread seems much more focused. I'll post an update if I hear from my SC again.

 

[misdemeanor]

I don't think anyone have been able to upgrade their cameras for free yet. There are some who have bought the cameras themselves and/or got them from a salvaged vehicle. You may want to follow this thread: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/fsd’s-earliest-adopters-find-themselves-again-deprioritized-and-forgotten.243556/

I opened a service call over the weekend for my S and they did confirm that the upgrade will be free for people that have paid for FSD. They're just not scheduling any appointments until they can confirm the retrofit from Corporate.

FSD’s earliest adopters find themselves again deprioritized and forgotten

 

[Charliek]

Patiently waiting ( sort of )and trying to get my safety score up ..maybe a nice Xmas present of a camera upgrade? Santa?

 

[misdemeanor]

Patiently waiting ( sort of )and trying to get my safety score up ..maybe a nice Xmas present of a camera upgrade? Santa?

It would be a nice Christmas present, but I doubt it'll get here that quick. I would say Q2 2022

 

[Officient]

I am in the same boat as the "lucky" few, bought my Model X 75D used from Tesla with FSD included, got the free upgrade to AP 3 HW, a paid for the MCU2 upgrade. Been driving for weeks "safely" with a 99 score. Not a word from Tesla on getting FSD or a cameras upgrade. Hope to see some folks getting some traction soon. I'm 2.5 hours from a the closest service center lol!