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Update to the Supercharger network policies
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Waiting4M3
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I like it. 1000 miles sounds pretty reasonable middle ground, it won't break the SC network or bankrupt Tesla, and it gives a nice little safety net for all Tesla owners to rely on.
Waiting4M3
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Why do you think that? My 1st reaction is that M3 should be included, but now that I think about it, there is really no indication one way or the other from Tesla's announcement. I guess we will have to wait for part 2.
Quote from the Tesla Blog:
I repeat: "For Teslas ordered after January 1, 2017, 400 kWh of free Supercharging credits (roughly 1,000 miles) will be included annually"
Not "For Model S" og "For Model S and X", but for all models of Tesla.
omarti
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The payment mechanics will be interesting. Do we all get accounts that we refill periodically, rather like EasyPass? That would allow the payment process to be separate from the charging process, and avoid payment hassles at the time of charging. Presumably Tesla can simply read the car's ID during the Supercharger connection process and charge the account accordingly. Probably automatic refill from a checking account or credit card would be used, and possibly mandatory.
Or will we have to use an RFID card similar to what ChargePoint uses? Seems unlikely if only because of the retrofit needed for every Supercharger in the world, but it might happen.
Or maybe some other mechanism?
Or will we have to use an RFID card similar to what ChargePoint uses? Seems unlikely if only because of the retrofit needed for every Supercharger in the world, but it might happen.
Or maybe some other mechanism?
ModelNforNerd
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So the main questions we seem to have are:
Will the credits carry over?
What is the definition of "annually"? Jan 1st every year? Or the day you take delivery?
How much will the credits cost?
Will there be an auto-replenish feature for your MyTesla account?
Will "free" Supercharging on current/soon-to-be-legacy Teslas carry over to subsequent owners, or will new owners of older Teslas have to pay to charge as well?
Will the credits carry over?
What is the definition of "annually"? Jan 1st every year? Or the day you take delivery?
How much will the credits cost?
Will there be an auto-replenish feature for your MyTesla account?
Will "free" Supercharging on current/soon-to-be-legacy Teslas carry over to subsequent owners, or will new owners of older Teslas have to pay to charge as well?
I like it - still preserves some amount of long distance travel for free, but still acts as a disincentive for taxi services to clog up the network.
I guess the expectation is that current owners cars will eventually be sold, retired, etc reducing the number of "free for life" cars on the road. I am glad I reserved my CPO over the weekend (I feel like I got an even better deal now
) . I wonder if this policy will be applied to the CPOs after the new year as well.
I guess the expectation is that current owners cars will eventually be sold, retired, etc reducing the number of "free for life" cars on the road. I am glad I reserved my CPO over the weekend (I feel like I got an even better deal now
) . I wonder if this policy will be applied to the CPOs after the new year as well.
ModelNforNerd
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I don't think we're going to go that route. Currently, Teslas talk to the Superchargers during the initial handshake. Right now, during that handshake, the Supercharger is looking for a "yes" to the question of your car being enabled for Supercharging (because there ARE a handful out there that aren't).
In the near future, the Superchargers will ask "is this a pre-2017 car?" "is supercharging enabled?" if it's post-2017 "are there credits in the account?"
At that point, if you don't have credits in your account, the car will still take a charge, and the credit card you've tied in to your MyTesla account will be charged for the electrons, maybe even after-the-fact.....to streamline the process "at the pump".
you don't want to deploy thousands of point of sale terminals at this stage in the game. all of that computing will be done at the mothership.
So the cars that can be shared through Tesla's service will NOT be eligible for free supercharging? Only 2017> cars? Good, no room for SuC abuse then.
Man, if you have a taxi/lease/company or have a corporate fleet otherwise, THIS is the moment to obtain funding to get as many Models S as you can possibly get!
The cars (not the inventory ones) can later be self-driving to boot.
As I predicted, NOW is the best deal on a Model S/X. Especially the base S, as there is room for more free energy per $1000 spent.
Imagine you employ sales people or specialists who tend to commute an average of 2x1 hour daily. You'll want to get them all new S's without delay. Even if you park them in storage first until other vehicles are fased out.
Man, if you have a taxi/lease/company or have a corporate fleet otherwise, THIS is the moment to obtain funding to get as many Models S as you can possibly get!
The cars (not the inventory ones) can later be self-driving to boot.
As I predicted, NOW is the best deal on a Model S/X. Especially the base S, as there is room for more free energy per $1000 spent.
Imagine you employ sales people or specialists who tend to commute an average of 2x1 hour daily. You'll want to get them all new S's without delay. Even if you park them in storage first until other vehicles are fased out.
Correct. However, will you need to pay to enable the supercharging capability? They said all teslas will come with the supercharging "hardware", any time they say "hardware" i am skeptical a bit. Will we need to pay for the option to enable this supercharging hardware via a software update? They use the same verbiage in the self-driving technology
Vger
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I will not be surprised if you are right, but I also think it might be fair and easy for them to keep the eligibility by VIN rather than owner. It certainly will affect the resale value of the early cars. We are about to trade-in our Signature P85 on a new P100DL, so perhaps we will be able to find out...
JeffK
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No, you won't have to pay for anything additional besides the kWh credits.
Model S M.D.
Ludicrous Radiologist
I hope its similar to the EasyPass/TollTag payment system. I find the current pay per use at the stall ChargePoint, EVGO, etc. setup is exceedingly unreliable, inconvenient and at best, slows down the entire process. There is no better feeling than plugging into a supercharger and seeing the green lights immediately blink
Note to self: order new P100D w/AP2 hardware by 12/31.
Model S M.D.
Ludicrous Radiologist
You will have a truly rare car. One of the few 100 kWh cars with free for life Supercharging. The ultimate road trip machine!
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