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[updated with *] P85D 691HP should have an asterisk * next to it.. "Up to 691HP"
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Andyw2100
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There is also no established causal and effect relationship between someone posting anything in any way negative towards Tesla in this thread, and your then responding to it, but like the examples I provided, it is pretty clear to anyone following along that both those causal and effect relationships exist.
Well, it is a "forum" and as such verbiage is used and so "responses" also using verbiage are to be expected.
However anyone in here, trying to take any credit at all for any changes in the way that Tesla advertises or chooses to represent their products, by stating or implying that this thread had anything to do with that, and without any proof of that whatsoever that this is the case, is a stretch at best and absurd at worst.
But people like to think that their efforts were fruitful even if fruitless.
Being that it's the Christmas season, I won't be a grinch and take that feel good emotion from you.
No sir. You hear that you guys? I won't dash the hopes and dreams of another. No sir. Don't want that on my record as nothing good can come of something like that.
So yeah Andy. This whole thread, indeed by itself, started a revolution in the way that Tesla does business.
Merry Christmas Andy
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Andyw2100
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People who were interested in this thread, and are still watching it, would probably be interested in this thread now:
Pack Performance and Launch Mode Limits
Pack Performance and Launch Mode Limits
#metoo Tesla facing double jeopardy in Norway over P85D horsepower figures
"If you can't explain to a customer who paid full price why another customer didn't without being embarrassed, then it is not right," E. Musk
Compensation for one, compensation for all.
"If you can't explain to a customer who paid full price why another customer didn't without being embarrassed, then it is not right," E. Musk
Compensation for one, compensation for all.
Then, there's this. Teslarati:
"The reason for the discrepancy was rather simple. Being a dual-motor vehicle, Tesla advertised the Model S P85D with the combined horsepower from both its front and rear motors. The front motor of the car produces 221 hp and the rear, as could be seen in dyno tests of the vehicle, produces 471 hp. Combined, the P85D’s dual motors do align with Tesla’s figures, producing a combined 691 hp. For some P85D owners in Norway, however, this was tantamount false advertising."
Tesla receives another Model S P85D lawsuit in Norway
History needs to be more accurate, than this. I don't remember U.S. Tesla ever saying "691HP", and no dyno to my knowledge ever posted a simultaneous 221 + 471hp. I sure remember the severely miss-leading "motor power" stuff, which the auto-media ran with. But P85D motors were never "producing a combined 691hp". Far from it. In an atmosphere where repeating falsehoods can make them true, I agree it was good to give this thread a tender
**bump**.
"The reason for the discrepancy was rather simple. Being a dual-motor vehicle, Tesla advertised the Model S P85D with the combined horsepower from both its front and rear motors. The front motor of the car produces 221 hp and the rear, as could be seen in dyno tests of the vehicle, produces 471 hp. Combined, the P85D’s dual motors do align with Tesla’s figures, producing a combined 691 hp. For some P85D owners in Norway, however, this was tantamount false advertising."
Tesla receives another Model S P85D lawsuit in Norway
History needs to be more accurate, than this. I don't remember U.S. Tesla ever saying "691HP", and no dyno to my knowledge ever posted a simultaneous 221 + 471hp. I sure remember the severely miss-leading "motor power" stuff, which the auto-media ran with. But P85D motors were never "producing a combined 691hp". Far from it. In an atmosphere where repeating falsehoods can make them true, I agree it was good to give this thread a tender
**bump**.
Got a link? From the moment it left Musk's lips, in English, it was always within the context of "motor power".
Can we merge this with the Alcantara thread?
lolachampcar
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Sorry about that. Remain calm and drive on.
For full recovery I prescribe two P85D blasts to 80 (ish) - do not take with timing gear, and a hot lap in the Maclaren. If that doesn't restore equilibrium, I'll make a house call to test and adjust your equipment myself.
For full recovery I prescribe two P85D blasts to 80 (ish) - do not take with timing gear, and a hot lap in the Maclaren. If that doesn't restore equilibrium, I'll make a house call to test and adjust your equipment myself.
Just poking this to resurrect one Tesla's Greatest Hits for new eyes.
Feel similar to this:
Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
Feel similar to this:
Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
thegruf
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Haha. Ressurrection indeed Mr Sorka.
I remember being so relieved, and feeling really bad for those that were duped, when I didnt think the 691hp claim added up on the P85D and went for the 85D instead.
(mind you Tesla just got their own back on me recently by keeping my car for a week and a haf in service instead of the quoted 1-2 days just as they slashed the prices by 40% here so I lost my buyer and eventually sold for 20,000GBP (iro $27,000) less. Thanks Tesla. Properly shafted me this time. (and absolutely not a jot of movement by Tesla sales subsequently either - not a single mil - so guess what very sadly I'm currently not in a Tesla).
Here's another 691hp for you - Tesla set the bar; McClaren follows - properly
Stock McLaren 720S Makes 691 HP at the Wheels in Dyno Test
at the wheels no less.
I remember being so relieved, and feeling really bad for those that were duped, when I didnt think the 691hp claim added up on the P85D and went for the 85D instead.
(mind you Tesla just got their own back on me recently by keeping my car for a week and a haf in service instead of the quoted 1-2 days just as they slashed the prices by 40% here so I lost my buyer and eventually sold for 20,000GBP (iro $27,000) less. Thanks Tesla. Properly shafted me this time. (and absolutely not a jot of movement by Tesla sales subsequently either - not a single mil - so guess what very sadly I'm currently not in a Tesla).
Here's another 691hp for you - Tesla set the bar; McClaren follows - properly
Stock McLaren 720S Makes 691 HP at the Wheels in Dyno Test
at the wheels no less.
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