Upgrading to FSD beta - starting subscription until FSD beta

[pwlorraine]

The release of 10.44.25.5 - the version of FSD beta with Apple Music and the first version ahead of my 10.44.25.1 software - lead me to start a subscription. My car is set to “advanced” software updates. I started the subscription on Friday Dec 21 at 1:00 am and selected the request to join the beta immediately in the car. My car had an update to 10.44.25.3 at 2:00 am - not the beta. Today, Dec 24 at 3:00 pm my car received the 10.44.25.5 FSD beta update. So next day or roughly 36 hours for me in New York.

My biggest worry was sitting on the base FSD for most of the first month - I will likely maintain a subscription if I find value. I am really curious about the single stack v11 though.

I have a 2022 Model 3 AWD.

 

[TresLA]

Nice! Now be really careful as you start to experiment with it. Keep in mind it will take some time to get comfortable with when it should or shouldn't be enabled. There is a learning curve before it’s really “useable” in the real world without stressing you out.

 

[JulienW]

Wonder if Tesla is hoping it will rase revenue before the end of QT? Still may sell some EAP packages since many people are driving over the holidays.

 

[EVRider-FL]

Wonder if Tesla is hoping it will rase revenue before the end of QT? Still may sell some EAP packages since many people are driving over the holidays.

Tesla’s now offering EAP free for 30 days, so that won’t help this quarter.

 

[jecsun]

I just subscribed for a month last night. Did you have 100 AP miles logged? The safety score tab just popped up on the app with no stats

 

[JulienW]

Tesla’s now offering EAP free for 30 days, so that won’t help this quarter.

WOW, been smoking too much from the Elon 420 Time Perception pipe.

 

[pwlorraine]

I only had 10 or so autopilot miles when the FSD beta came down. My safety score based on that 36 hour period was 98 but I do not know if that mattered.

 

[EVRider-FL]

The safety score and 100 AP miles are no longer required. As long as you already have the FSD option (purchased or subscribed), all you need to do is request the beta from the touchscreen (Controls > Autopilot).

 

[samori01]

Does anyone know if you subscribe monthly for road trips, etc., get the FSD option, your month runs out and you do not renew, and then renew 2 months later for another road trip if you will have FSD immediately, or will you need to request the beta again?

 

[jecsun]

Don’t know. But I subscribed 12/25 and got it within 21 hours, so it should be fairly quick

 

[JulienW]

Does anyone know if you subscribe monthly for road trips, etc., get the FSD option, your month runs out and you do not renew, and then renew 2 months later for another road trip if you will have FSD immediately, or will you need to request the beta again?

FSD Beta doesn't work on highways. FSD Beta is a misnomer of Autosteer on City Streets Beta.

 

[samori01]

FSD Beta doesn't work on highways. FSD Beta is a misnomer of Autosteer on City Streets Beta.

Yes, it returns to the same thing that you have with EAP on highways....just wondering if it resets completely when the subscription resets.

 

[JulienW]

Yes, it returns to the same thing that you have with EAP on highways....just wondering if it resets completely when the subscription resets.

If you stop the subscription FSD Beta grays out (or disappears) and can't be turned on. You stay on the Beta branch and when you pay the subscription you can turn Beta back on.

 

[EVRider-FL]

If you stop the subscription FSD Beta grays out (or disappears) and can't be turned on. You stay on the Beta branch and when you pay the subscription you can turn Beta back on.

You might get a non-Beta software update once you lose FSD, but don’t install it if you plan to subscribe again. Once Tesla releases the single stack version that won’t matter anymore. As others mentioned, the current FSD Beta uses regular NoA on the highway, so if you only plan to use AP on the highway, you don’t need the FSD Beta build, just the FSD (or EAP) option.

 

[samori01]

You might get a non-Beta software update once you lose FSD, but don’t install it if you plan to subscribe again. Once Tesla releases the single stack version that won’t matter anymore. As others mentioned, the current FSD Beta uses regular NoA on the highway, so if you only plan to use AP on the highway, you don’t need the FSD Beta build, just the FSD (or EAP) option.

If you stop the subscription FSD Beta grays out (or disappears) and can't be turned on. You stay on the Beta branch and when you pay the subscription you can turn Beta back on.

So as long as you keep the FSD software, whenever you resubscribe it will be there; however, if you update to a non-beta software, you will have to wait for the FSD software again. Thank you.
Also, is the plan to go to single stack iminent, or is this another thing that is on Elon time?

 

[EVRider-FL]

Also, is the plan to go to single stack iminent, or is this another thing that is on Elon time?

Anything software related is on Elon time. He's better with hardware/production timing estimates.

 

[TresLA]

So as long as you keep the FSD software, whenever you resubscribe it will be there; however, if you update to a non-beta software, you will have to wait for the FSD software again. Thank you.
Also, is the plan to go to single stack iminent, or is this another thing that is on Elon time?

I don’t think this is clear yet. Yes, FSDb branch will almost certainly go to single stack soon, but there’s been no indication this software will be forced onto production AP cars yet/at that time.

 

[Ramphex]

In to see how many days before you figure out it’s not worth the price tag, and that your friends would be more impressed if you learned card tricks, or how to juggle instead

 

[djec65fb]

I just did a one month subscription to FSD beta to try it out again, my car also had just installed 2022.44.25.3. I'd expect that I'll get the beta software within the next 1-2 days. Will update here when I do if I remember to.

 

[samori01]

In to see how many days before you figure out it’s not worth the price tag, and that your friends would be more impressed if you learned card tricks, or how to juggle instead

While I wholeheartedly agree, what you and I feel is worth the price tag, does not hold true for everyone else. There are some who purchased a Tesla for the sole reason of using this functionality, so for them, it is completely worth it.