Upsized 90D from 19" -> 21" - won't fit?

[kmob07]

I have a 2017 MS 90D that came with the stock 19" wheels/tires. I have been changing them every season between winters and summers (in NY) without any issues.

This spring I decided to get a second set of wheels / tires to make the process easier every season and went with some recommended staggered wheels from tirerack - they are Axis MS TI Gunmetal wheels:

Front: 21x9 w/ 40mm offset
Rear: 21x10 w/ 40mm offset

Fitted out with Pilot Super Sport 245/35ZR21 on the front and 265/35ZR21s on the rear.

My installer says that the tires are rubbing (he only got as far as the first rear tire). Has anyone else had issues with fitting larger tires/wheels on the Model S? As far as I can tell these are the stock OEM 21" sizes so I'm surprised it wouldn't work.

I thought I'd ask before I returned the wheel/tire set - maybe there is some sort of spacers or other item that I should have bought to allow for the larger diameter? Thanks for any insights!

Links if they're helpful:

Rear Wheel:
21x10 Titanium Gunmetal Axis MS

Rear Tire:
265/35ZR21 Michelin Pilot Super Sport TO Tesla, Acoustic Tech

 

[St Charles]

Aren't 21" Tesla wheels 8.5" in the front and 9" in the back?

 

[kmob07]

Aren't 21" Tesla wheels 8.5" in the front and 9" in the back?

Well that sure would explain things... I followed the tirerack recommendation for the 21s to buy, but probably should have double checked. I'll check that out later today.

 

[MiamiDubai]

I have the same exact setup. I have no rubbing whatsoever.

Axis MS 21x9 front
Axis MS 21x10 rear
I do have the Falken Azenis tires. But they are the same size 245 front 265 rear

I don’t have air suspension so that might be it. Weird nonetheless

 

[Tarzan_fi]

Rear should be ok (I'm surprised if there is a problem; Typically 10.5 wheel has ET of 35-38), but front may be a bit too much inwards. Typically 9'''s offset is 30-35.

 

[mb300sd]

I'm running 285s on 10.5"s in the rear without rubbing. I did have to use a piece of mig welding wire to pull the plastic liner back a tiny bit.

 

[kmob07]

I have the same exact setup. I have no rubbing whatsoever.

Axis MS 21x9 front
Axis MS 21x10 rear
I do have the Falken Azenis tires. But they are the same size 245 front 265 rear

I don’t have air suspension so that might be it. Weird nonetheless

Thanks everyone for the feedback - it give me hope! I’m going to just jack the car myself in my driveway and get a sense of the fit. Maybe the installer was just conservative. He freaked out at me initially when I pulled out the wheels/tires and pointed out that the sticker in the wheel well said it needed 19”s.

Fingers crossed - I’ll let you all know either way.

 

[kmob07]

Well crud - no go unfortunately at this point. The right front wheel is definitely rubbing on part of the inside of the wheel well. It’s not the tire thought, it’s the inside of the rim. Here’s a picture after taking the tire off after hearing it rub when pulling forward

It looks like it could be solved by a spacer (it’s just barely touching), but there definitely weren’t any spacers in the hardware shipment. I’ll call tire rack to see if they will ship me one. If that solves it, great... if not, I’ll return the wheels/tires. Bummer so far!

 

[mb300sd]

Well crud - no go unfortunately at this point. The right front wheel is definitely rubbing on part of the inside of the wheel well. It’s not the tire thought, it’s the inside of the rim. Here’s a picture after taking the tire off after hearing it rub when pulling forward

It looks like it could be solved by a spacer (it’s just barely touching), but there definitely weren’t any spacers in the hardware shipment. I’ll call tire rack to see if they will ship me one. If that solves it, great... if not, I’ll return the wheels/tires. Bummer so far!

A tiny spacer should solve that pretty easily. You need a 64.1mm center bore.

These should do the job.

https://smile.amazon.com/HUBCENTRIC-5x114-3-Spacers-Integra-Element/dp/B01N8XO1SW/

 

[dzmconstr]

A tiny spacer should solve that pretty easily. You need a 64.1mm center bore.

These should do the job.

https://smile.amazon.com/HUBCENTRIC-5x114-3-Spacers-Integra-Element/dp/B01N8XO1SW/

Well that would make a pretty easy and cheap fix...

 

[colindo1990]

I run 22x9 et35 and 22x10.5 et et without any rubbing whatsoever

255/30/22
305/25/22

your fronts should of been et 35 not et40 on 21x9
your rears should clear

here's some pictures of my set up

 

[Tarzan_fi]

Looks good mate but are those tyres or a round of gaffer tape around the wheels? =)

 

[mb300sd]

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I run 22x9 et35 and 22x10.5 et et without any rubbing whatsoever

255/30/22
305/25/22

your fronts should of been et 35 not et40 on 21x9
your rears should clear

here's some pictures of my set up

What was your rear ET? I'd like to put 305s on my rears if they fit. I have 19x10.5 ET 36.

 

[raphy3]

Aren't 21" Tesla wheels 8.5" in the front and 9" in the back?

Not exactly. My understanding is there are two types of 21s. The standard cyclone wheels which were going for 6k on teslas site are the same size. Then the P85+ cars came with a special staggered 21 setup. I've got 21s that were stock from tesla back in 2013 and 2014, the gray cyclones, which are the same size.

 

[Russell]

Well crud - no go unfortunately at this point. The right front wheel is definitely rubbing on part of the inside of the wheel well. It’s not the tire thought, it’s the inside of the rim. Here’s a picture after taking the tire off after hearing it rub when pulling forward

It looks like it could be solved by a spacer (it’s just barely touching), but there definitely weren’t any spacers in the hardware shipment. I’ll call tire rack to see if they will ship me one. If that solves it, great... if not, I’ll return the wheels/tires. Bummer so far!

If you can get your money back, return them and buy rims with the correct offset.
Use this calculator to help you figure it out https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator#

 

[Russell]

Well crud - no go unfortunately at this point. The right front wheel is definitely rubbing on part of the inside of the wheel well. It’s not the tire thought, it’s the inside of the rim. Here’s a picture after taking the tire off after hearing it rub when pulling forward

It looks like it could be solved by a spacer (it’s just barely touching), but there definitely weren’t any spacers in the hardware shipment. I’ll call tire rack to see if they will ship me one. If that solves it, great... if not, I’ll return the wheels/tires. Bummer so far!

Looking at those gouges, are you sure he didn't mount the 10" wheel up front?

 

[colindo1990]

22x9 et 35 fronts
22x10.5 et 35 rears

if you're running 19x10.5 rears

285/40/19 would be ideal to keep it similar to stock rolling diameter of 27.8 inches