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US Tesla Model X move to EU

Discussion in 'Model X: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by sunnyvale, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. sunnyvale

    sunnyvale Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Sunnyvale, CA
    What if I move my Model X from US to Europe.

    I found these informations (below) so far.
    What do you guys think is it worth it to move to EU?

    * Tesla EU will not honour any US warranty, they will not apply service fixes, recalls, etc etc [and this is not a guess - they are on record as saying that they will not do this]

    * Tesla EU will not maintain or repair the car once it's out of warranty (so if you have a failure you will have to either get a third party to do the work for you, or return the car to the US)

    * US cars have a different charging connector so cannot access EU superchargers, or charge from 3 phase power sources; in practice you will be limited to 7kW AC charging and possibly CHAdeMO rapids

    * US car remote fobs use a different frequency to EU ones and may be illegal in your country

    * Even if you do manage to get connectivity (by switching the SIM or by using wifi tethering) it is likely that a US car will not have EU mapping on board so you will have no satnav, and the slacker music streaming service will also probably not work when it detects you're outside the US

    * The radio will quite probably not work, and certainly you will not get DAB

    * You will most likely need to make other changes relating to adapting to local regulations (e.g. fitting rear fog lights, changes to indicator lamp colour etc)

    * Shipping an electric car by ship is a huge hassle because hazardous materials regulations require that the battery be transported separately from the car, so you have to pay someone to remove and reconnect it (and see previous point about the fact that Tesla will not help you)

    * If you import a complete car into the EU you may have to pay import duty (Tesla get around this by importing multiple separate components and then only finishing the cars at Tilburg after they enter the EU).

    Actually it is possible to use a US Tesla in Europe. But there are some
    things to know first. Frequency is not a problem, both US and EU Teslas
    are rated 45-65hz for their respective on-board AC chargers.
    In the US, for historical reasons, Tesla uses it's own connector. In the EU the
    Mennekes standard is used. This means the inlet on the US version of
    the car will not be able to use the European superchargers, at least,
    not without a VERY special adapter being hand built.. Even then the VIN
    numbers for US models would have to be authorized for use on the EU
    network. You will not be able to use EU public charging without a specialist cable being
    built, or using a bit of adaption.. but that is not unusual, many European chargers require the user to supply the cable specific to their car. The simplest way to achieve this is to use a standard EU Mennekes
    to J1772 cable, then use the US Tesla's included J1772 to “US Tesla
    connector” adapter. The car will charge at public stations with this
    simple arrangement. **All you have to buy is a 32 Amp Mennekes to J1772 cable for this to work properly.**

    The next thing to be aware of it that in the EU the Mennekes standard
    allows the use of three phase AC charging which is fairly common in some
    European areas. The US connector is single phase but at higher
    amperage. Three phase power is only common in distribution, and
    industrial/commercial areas in the US. So your US Tesla may charge
    slower from some stations that are three phase, because you will only be
    using one of the phases. You may also use the US Tesla's UMC in
    Europe with hand built adapters. The US UMC includes a NEMA 5-15p
    adapter (US domestic Mains) which charges at 12 amps maximum. The
    adapter UMC and on-board charger(s) will accept any voltage between
    85-265 VAC You may construct an adapter from NEMA 5-15r to CEE 7/4
    (Type C/F, Schuko). You may also want a NEMA 5-15r to BS1363 (British
    Mains). The US UMC also comes with a NEMA 14-50 adapter, other adapters
    you may want would be NEMA 14-50r to any IEC 16 or 32 amp sockets. Those
    are the red & blue plugs Bjørn is using. But with these kind of
    adapters you will always need to manually set the charge current to 32
    or 16 amps because the Tesla NEMA 14-50p adapter will by default will
    pass up to 40 amps. Also any adapters you use must be wired only for 230
    volts because the US Charger will not Handle 400 volts AC.
  2. Mario Kadastik

    Mario Kadastik Active Member

    Sep 5, 2013
    Rae, Harjumaa, Estonia
    Seriously, don't do it. Talked to enough owners of US cars and they regret it. Sell in US, buy in EU.
  3. sunnyvale

    sunnyvale Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Sunnyvale, CA
    ok but give me some examples.
  4. ragrawa3

    ragrawa3 Member

    Jun 2, 2015
    Bartlett, IL

    I am relocating to Germany for two years and want to take my Tesla from US to Germany.
    I am wondering if you can guide me and help me with your knowledge on what all I need to do.
    Where can I buy the adapters you are talking about?
    Do you have any recommendations on the shipping company?
    what adjustments I need to make to car for EU standard?
    Can you guide on cost of these items?
    Looking to hear back from you!

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