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USB for Navi update and Music playback

Discussion in 'Roadster: Technical' started by hallvardr, Sep 17, 2016.

  1. hallvardr

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    Is this USB connected to the Alpine head unit, and usable for music playback or map updates. Or is it only for software updates to the car?
     
  2. ViperDoc

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    1. Map updates for Alpine come via an SD card you buy from Alpine. They update about every 18 months.
    2. Software updates can be loaded this way, I am pretty sure
     
  3. gregd

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    If you're referring to the USB connector that's under the center console (middle of your picture, above the 12v outlet), that one goes to the car's computer. Insert a USB key (4 gig or less), with a top-level directory named "VehicleLogs" (case sensitive), and the car will download its internal logs for you to upload to the service center, or view on your own (pointers to some excellent log viewers are elsewhere on the forum). I don't know of any other customer use for that connector.

    Connection for music playback should be on the "iPad" connector that's right in front of the parking brake, but that's not simply a USB plug. I just use Bluetooth.
     
  4. hallvardr

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    Thanks for the answers! very helpful.
    I was hoping to switch out the Apple connector to an normal USB plug that I can connect with music on.
     
  5. markwj

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    The music connector is higher up on the centre console. Near the handbrake.

    Love that iPhone/iPod connector!

    It comes as standard with an Apple style 30 pin connector, but not hard to remove that part of the centre console and replace it with whatever connector you need.

    Navigation / head unit firmware updates are done either via SD card or another USB connector hidden in the fuse box on the console waterfall (near the passenger/driver knee).
     
  6. hallvardr

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    Ok, I will definitively change the Apple connector to USB then, has anyone written instuctions for doing that, or taking the console apart?
    I was excited about the SD card update, but as far as I can see, there are no SD slots on my Alpine. So I will check the Fuse box and hope that I find the USB there.
     
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    The SD card slot is behind the powered screen (that opens up to install the CD)
     
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    I have the Alpine IVA-W520R, and it looks like this: [​IMG]
     
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    Uh oh...this must be a difference between US spec and EU spec Roadsters. The US Roadsters have the Alpine IVA-NAV-10 (at least the 2.5's do)
     
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    Yes, I noticed that the US owners all mentioned the IVA-NAV-10. Most things seems to be similar with the models, but apparently not everything. Seems kinda weird to have two different systems on the same car. I have a 2011 2.5
     
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    The IVA-NAV-10 is basically an Alpine INA-W900 (with the Tesla splash screen and a different model number)
     
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    It looks like, according to Alpine's website, the IVA-520R uses the Alpine NVE-M300P navigation module, which has a different update option/capability than the IVA-NAV-10/INA-W900.

    Alpine - NVE-M300P/RUE-M300 Firmware & Map Update

    But, I'm going from Internet research here (Alpine's website). I have no way of verifying the accuracy of this info. Use at your own risk.
     
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    Thanks for the research. Hope fully I will find the USB next to the fuses then, and I should be good to go:)
     
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    Tried to update the Navi today. Went to the navi as explained in the menu, plugged in the USB that I found by the fuses, and absolutely nothing happened... Any tips?
     
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    If you plug a USB stick with mp3s on it, can you access those from the head unit and play them?

    Trying to verify if you're in the right USB port, and it's connected to the head unit.
     
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    I don't think that's how you update the navi on your model. I could be wrong but I believe there's a SD card slot just below the CD port. In fact I think I can see it in your picture in post #8.
     
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    This thread might help:

    new map update available for IVA-NAV-10

    The IVA-W520R is the model I had (before I removed it and replaced with a more modern unit). Updates were via the Naviextras.com - Map updates for your navigation device and more... site, and installed via the USB connector in the fuse box.

    Note that I was warned by my ranger at the time that sometimes those fuse box usb cables weren't installed properly at the back of the head unit. In my case it was fine.
     
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    This is why I suggested that he try to put some mp3s on a USB stick and see if they play - just to see if he's got the right cable (and it's connected to the head unit).
     
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    To piggyback on this, with apologies, but is there a way (a hack) to update the maps on the older single-DIN JVC KD-NXD505 units that the 2.0 cars have? Service Center shrugs and says to try a car audio place, and the local car audio store says there is not. Just wondering if anyone's figured out a way to hack it.

    Google maps on my smart phone is nice, but it means that I have to keep the JVC pointed at the Bluetooth audio stream (can't listen to the radio), and it's hard to manage the phone while driving.
     
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    I tried connecting a USB with MP3s on it and still no connection at all, so I don't think it's properly connected. But would not the update cable go to the navi box either way, which I understand to be a separate box?
    Is it possible just to pull out the unit, or do I need to take apart the whole dashboard?

    What did you end up switching to markwj, and are you happy with it?
    I kind of hated the Alpine at first, but now I'm kinda used to it, and think I could live with it for a while if the map updates are good.

    hcsharp, the blue thing you are referring to is just a light unfortunately.
     

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