Used P85 or 85D?

[Rojer Lockless]

If you were going to buy a used Model S around year 2015 and you had to pick between a P85 or a 85D which would you choose and more importantly why?

 

[Big Earl]

I've driven both and this is a tough one. I'd probably go for the 85D because I do a lot of winter driving. The P85 also eats rear tires.

 

[sorka]

Well since the 85D is just as fast as the P85, I'd pick the newer car with more features and AWD to boot.

That said this is assuming all other things like price, mileage, etc are equal. If the P85 was a better deal due to a much lower price, then I'd pick that. It's still a great car.

 

[Chaserr]

85D, it's just as fast and 100% has AP hardware. Only a handful of P85s do.

 

[Rojer Lockless]

Kinda surprised by the landslide so far. I will be in Texas so "winter" driving won't be an issue at all. Lots to think about. I'll be buying this year I just still don't know which one I want. Thanks for the replies.

 

[jelloslug]

The 85D has virtually the same performance, AWD, much better highway range, and the tires will last longer and require fewer rotations.

 

[Stan Moraski]

I am going through a similar dilemma. My 2013 Brown P85 runs out of warranty next February, and thinking ahead what to do. A titanium metallic 85D with tan interior and 25K miles can be had for $44K with a four year warranty. If I was buying today, I would pay an additional $9000 for a P90DL with the same mileage. I know, you don’t have to get to sixty in 2.6 seconds, and the whole 90 battery degradation issue, but just to have the performance would be worth it to me.
You’re gonna be dead a long time, go for the P AND the AWD!

 

[ewoodrick]

Kinda surprised by the landslide so far. I will be in Texas so "winter" driving won't be an issue at all. Lots to think about. I'll be buying this year I just still don't know which one I want. Thanks for the replies.

I think that you left out the biggest decision point, price.

If price is no object, I'm not buying used. But since you are being used, I'm assuming that price is an issue.
Therefore that real question is "Are the advantages of the P85 and 85D worth X dollars"

 

[sorka]

Also, if you'd asked the question of P85+ vs 85D you would have gotten a very different response.

 

[Rojer Lockless]

Good point, I'm looking to stay under 40k.

 

[365gtb4]

I've driven both and to me there is no comparison. The 85D rides better, gets better range, is all wheel drive and works well in the snow, and is still very fast. One think to watch for is you want the next gen seats.

 

[jelloslug]

I am going through a similar dilemma. My 2013 Brown P85 runs out of warranty next February, and thinking ahead what to do. A titanium metallic 85D with tan interior and 25K miles can be had for $44K with a four year warranty. If I was buying today, I would pay an additional $9000 for a P90DL with the same mileage. I know, you don’t have to get to sixty in 2.6 seconds, and the whole 90 battery degradation issue, but just to have the performance would be worth it to me.
You’re gonna be dead a long time, go for the P AND the AWD!

The biggest factor between the "P" and non "P" AWD cars would be the range. If the extra real world range is not that big of an issue, by all means, get the "P" version.

 

[BlueOvalFan]

...and the tires will last longer and require fewer rotations.

I thought tire wear was based on two things; 1) an off the line lead foot, 2) and air suspension driving at the low setting. If the P85D and 85D are the same car, less the rear motor why would there be more tire wear if the driving style remains the same.

 

[whitex]

If you were going to buy a used Model S around year 2015 and you had to pick between a P85 or a 85D which would you choose and more importantly why?

IIRC once "D" was introduced, P85D replaced P85 instantly. So there will be no 2015 P85, and no P85 and 85D of the same age. Maybe one of the youngest 2014 P85 will be close in age to the oldest 2014 85D's.

 

[Rojer Lockless]

Thanks for the input. I'm debating on buying now, or waiting for the Y release and the flood of S trade ins that will follow that.

 

[jelloslug]

I thought tire wear was based on two things; 1) an off the line lead foot, 2) and air suspension driving at the low setting. If the P85D and 85D are the same car, less the rear motor why would there be more tire wear if the driving style remains the same.

The RWD version is much harder on the rear tires.

 

[jelloslug]

Thanks for the input. I'm debating on buying now, or waiting for the Y release and the flood of S trade ins that will follow that.

If you keep waiting, you will never buy anything.

 

[sorka]

The RWD version is much harder on the rear tires.

I think that's totally true if you don't rotate or if your rear negative camber is really really negative, but even with someone negative rear camber, frequent tire rotations will just swap which tires the rear axel is hardest on.

 

[jelloslug]

I think that's totally true if you don't rotate or if your rear negative camber is really really negative, but even with someone negative rear camber, frequent tire rotations will just swap which tires the rear axel is hardest on.

Accelerated wear is still accelerated wear. Even if you spread it out over more tires, the wear is still more on the RWD cars vs the standard AWD cars.

 

[sorka]

Accelerated wear is still accelerated wear. Even if you spread it out over more tires, the wear is still more on the RWD cars vs the standard AWD cars.

Why?