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Using ChargePoint recharge stations in Australia

Discussion in 'Australia & New Zealand' started by jakevanle, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. jakevanle

    jakevanle Member

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    I downloaded the ChargePoint App

    Unlocked the ChargePoint cable

    Hey! the plug doesn't Fit!!!

    Lol what a waste of time. As per usual Telsa Australia have nfi chargepoint exists nor is worth mentioning to me.
    They had nfi about the Tesla Star City Charging station either, like how you actually get there or access it
    had the Valet whinge for using the one on the Darling Hotel Driveway, no one at Star City has any idea.

    seems like Tesla Australia has nfi on everything or how to communicate their nfi to the Star City Staff.

    Is there a way we can use chargepoint charging stations instead of waiting for Tesla to get off their ass and trickle install charge stations in Australia?
     
  2. timpoo

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    Hi Jake

    Chargepoint charging stations are all J1772 (Type 1) connectors. The Tesla uses a Type 2 (Mennekes) Connector.

    To make the Chargepoint station work, you need to buy a Type 1 --> Type 2 adapter. Some of us (me included) are working to get something made and certified so that it's suitable for use. It will take a while to get that done, maybe a month or so. Stay tuned.

    For the Star City one, from what I understand, you just go to the car park - say "Tesla charging", and they will let you in. When you go out, you say "Tesla completed charging", and they let you out. People can correct me if I'm wrong.

    Hope that helps!
     
  3. jakevanle

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    Thanks

    So you can't Just Buy one of these?

    Using public EV charging stations with your Tesla Model S - TESLARATI.com

    or maybe the Coat Hanger and Aluminum foil trick ;)

    "For the Star City one, from what I understand, you just go to the car park - say "Tesla charging", and they will let you in. When you go out, you say "Tesla completed charging", and they let you out. People can correct me if I'm wrong."

    I will try that tonight, as I am just down the road from the Casino
     
  4. Dborn

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    Star city - drive in and past the valet station - go to the entry to the car park at the barrier, press the button and say Tesla to charge, they let you in. Follow the signs to the heavily branded Tesla bays, and charge. On leaving, at the barrier say "Tesla finished charging " and let you out. No charges are applied for parking or charging!!!
     
  5. jakevanle

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    I rang ChargePoint

    They said but they do not recommend it that I need to buy a mennekes to sae j1772 adaptor to work with ChargePoint.

    So has anyone done this? used a ChargePoint for their vehicle with the adapter?
     
  6. Gabz

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    no you have a euro spec Tesla not a US spec. those are for us spec.

    - - - Updated - - -

    See this thread
    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/31341-Mobile-charging-for-Australia/page10?p=807892&viewfull=1#post807892

    steve west has been successful with his.
     
  7. jakevanle

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    Yeah I saw that.. People are having problems getting them to work with the EV stations. EV stations not giving them power man...

    these EV stations are also really slow at charging....

    I am considering buying

    China 32A IEC 62196-2 EV Charging Female Plug - China Type2 Female Plug, Iec 62196-2 Ev Charging Female Plug

    China Mode 2 16A Portable Electric Vehicle Charging Box with SAE J1772 Standard: - China Portable Ev Charger, Sae J1772 Ev Plug

    (BTW I am a mechatronic engineer, so i am less likely to blow something up)

    I will change the head on it, Both ends.

    I cant see why this won't work? Then I can charge it at any hotel I go to...

    Or possibly just buy another Wall charger, Limit it to 10A, and attach a standard 240V plug to the power input...
    I might try that first....

    tbh I don't know why Tesla has not have their own solution for this
     
  8. Dborn

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    The 10amp version from Tesla is due out "soon". I believe there is a prototype version in the country already, so don't jump the gun just yet....
    Suggest you contact Mitchell and ask him. Address in PM.
     
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    I ran across this site the other day and it appears to have a fully "product-ized" version of this adapter. However, it would need to be checked for full compatibility and safety with Model S.

    J1772 to 62196 Type 2 Extension Cord 32A for Electric Vehicle EV Charging in Type 2 Cable Connector for Sale
     
  10. Shannontsoi

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    Guys, don't reinvent the wheel. The product is already there.

    image1.JPG image2.JPG image3.JPG image4.JPG

    We have tested here in HK, its working fine. Jakevanle, if you are interested, send me a PM, I might be able to help you by sending a sample for you to test.
     
  11. miimura

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    Do you have the exact one that I linked from jpson.com?
     
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    It's not a matter of a straight plug swap.
    If peoples adaptors are not activating the EV stations it's because all the signal requirements are not being meet.

    It does work if done properly. Here's Steve's car plugged into one of our JuicePoint 30amp J1772 chargers.

    steve j1772.jpg

    The down side of J1772 is that even at 30 amps you only get 30km/hour range, whereas one of our 3 phase 32 amp Type 2 units will put 100km/hour range into the battery.
     
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    What are you using for these? I like the idea of portable 32A 3 phase.
     
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    The one I have (you see in the photos) is exactly the same one from jpson.com, only my cable is 2.5M long. I am not sure of the length of the cable shown in jpson.com.
     
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    The unit I am referring to is actually designed to be wall mounted. On Steve and Carl's road trip, from Cape Reinga to Bluff, we adapted two by adding a flexible cable and plug. They are not really suited for this as they are bulky and weigh 4 kg.
    However a 32A 3 Phase Type 2 mobile charging cord is currently about to undergo testing.
     
  16. Mark E

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    Interesting. How do you find places with a 3 phase outlet?
     
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    Marina's and......don't know. Even then, the power points are out on the arms, and last time I looked, the Model S, advanced as it is, is not an amphibious vehicle.
     
  18. MDK

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    Elon's working on that

    "What I'm going to do is upgrade it with a Tesla electric powertrain"
     
  19. Johnwill

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    With great difficulty. It's matter of asking the right people.

    Actually there are more than you notice and at this early stage it's easier to carry something that plugs in and does all the functionality, than trying to get a dedicated 3 phase EVSE installed.
    We found them more often at businesses but also at shops, universities and hotels. There are even those in public spaces used for outdoor performances, fair stalls, etc.
     

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