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Using j1172 at charge point

Discussion in 'Charging Standards and Infrastructure' started by Jeffruby, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Jeffruby

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    Heading to an area of nj with only Nissan dealerships and some charge points. I have a charge point account but cards didn't come yet. Can unused charge point without the card?
     
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    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    Yes, if you have a smartphone, install the Chargepoint mobile app. You can start charging from it. You can also call the toll-free number (listed on the charging station itself).
     
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    How many amps should we expect from J1772 Chargepoint chargers in NJ? IOW, how many miles per hour of charging if I have twin-chargers?

    thanks.
     
  5. gg_got_a_tesla

    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    Chargepoint EVSEs are 30A stations so, the second of the twin chargers will not come into play. At around 208V, 30A, you'll get around 17 miles per hour of charging.
     
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    Do you have a Blink card/account? Many of the chargers in this area are on the Blink network. I think there is some reciprocity with chargepoint now. Blink offers a temporary membership for non-cardholders for 24hours at a time. On their website you provide a CC number and they give you a pin that you enter at the Blink station. Pin is only good for 24 hours but can repeat as needed.
     
  7. TexasEV

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    This question shows Tesla needs to explain better what the purpose of twin chargers is, and what they can not do. I'm not sure how else they can explain it so people understand better the option they are ordering (or not), but if a TMC member with over 200 posts is unsure about this, imagine what the average non-enthusiast Tesla owner doesn't know.
     
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    To be fair, I didn't order twin chargers.. They just came with the inventory car I bought. Also, I do know I need more than 40 amps to use the second charger... The only thing I did not know was how many amps are typically provided by J1772. chargers.
     
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    I have yet to find a J1772 above 30 amp in over 23,000 miles of driving. So not very common. And with no other car able to use over 30 amps and with the Supercharger network i doubt it will change.
     
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    Do you have the NEMA 14-50 adapter for your Tesla. Those are 50 amp outlets and most every RV park has them.
    RVParking.com | Find RV Parks, RV Park Reviews Use the 50 amp filter on the search page.
     
  11. HankLloydRight

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    I do have the adapter, but there aren't any RV parks convenient to my location this weekend, just J1772 chargers. I found one, it's charging at [email protected] and getting 18-19 mph of charging. 10 hours to go.

    How do people feel about leaving their car charging overnight at a public Blink/Chargepoint/Semacharge station in an otherwise empty office-park parking lot?
     
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    From my experience RV parks are not a good option as they are frequently a bit off the road and very few have options to get something to eat in walking distance. There are exceptions but that is my experience.
     
  13. Cottonwood

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    It depends on where you go. You are correct that because cars like the Leaf can only use a maximum of 30 Amps, there are a huge number of 30 and 32 Amp J1772 EVSE's out there. Across Canada, in Washington State, and moving into many areas of the U.S, there are 72 and 80 Amp EVSE's because of Sun Country Highway; see EV Trip Planner - Sun Country Highway. In fact there is an 80 Amp EVSE at a Best Western in Orlando!

    Because of my efforts, in Pagosa Springs, CO and Salida, CO, there are 72 Amp J1772 EVSE's that help connect a back road, scenic route between Silverthorne and Farmington.

    About Amp ratingss: Most J1772 EVSE's report offered Amps, but Sun Country reports circuit breaker capacity. Because for most circuit breakers, the recommendation is to only draw 80% of rating for a continuous load, a 100 Amp Sun Country J1772 offers 80 Amps usable, etc.

    There may be fewer High Amp EVSE's out there than the many 30 Amp ones, but if you look hard, you can find them. I wish Plugshare.com had a category for High Amp Level 2 charging.

    Go gather those Joules for your Jewel! :wink:
     
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    Cottonwood Roadster#433, Model S#S37

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    You are very correct. However, many RV Parks have WiFi and a Rec room. What I often do is to stop at a place to get some take-out food or snacks, then go to the RV park, enjoy the food, and their WiFi. Sometimes there is even a nice walk, or other activities.
     
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    I've left my car overnight it in Los Angeles at a Von's parking lot. People generally leave parked cars alone, unless you park in a truly sketchy part of town.
     
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    So I left my car overnight charging at a Chargepoint site near my folks house (1.5 miles away) at an otherwise empty and not well lit parking lot at an office park. Got a text message at 5am that my car was finished charging. Went down today and everything was fine.
     
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    Chargepoint is significantly more expensive than Blink. I avoid Chargepoint whenever I can. At Blink I pay about 15 cents per kWh ($1 an hour at 6.6 kW). That's pretty reasonable. Chargepoint is usually twice as much.
     
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    The Chargepoint stations are variable by location. I think some are even free. Where I charged last night, it was just $5 for an up-to 24 hour session. From their summary email:

    Which is pretty close to the energy used as tracked by the car: Distance: 191 miles, 61.8 kWh, 324 W/mi

    So that works out to be only about 8 cents per kWh.. so I think that's a pretty good deal. My house power is 16 cents per kWh.
     
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    The owner of the Chargepoint station decides what the cost to use it is, or even to charge at all. Chargepoint sells the charging station and is the network doing the reporting and billing for the store or whoever owns the charging station. Airport FastPark in Austin has Chargepoint chargers and they're free for people who pay to park in the lot.
     
  20. gg_got_a_tesla

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    ^ this. We have lots of free stations - installed near public libraries, city halls, Cinemark theaters, Target stores - around here, all operated by Chargepoint. A couple of fee-based ones start from $0.12 cents per kWh.
     

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