So what's your claim? You want to sue Tesla for not making a product you wanted? I really don't think that's how things work in this country. But go ahead, if that makes them release FSD faster, I wholeheartedly support you!
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V11 is going to be HUGE!
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So what's your claim? You want to sue Tesla for not making a product you wanted? I really don't think that's how things work in this country. But go ahead, if that makes them release FSD faster, I wholeheartedly support you!
I think we're all aware of what DanCar and the other trolls are doing here.
- People, including most of the media, have had it out for Tesla and Elon since TSLA started
- A few year(s) back Elon warned people of the Epic Burn of the Century
- TSLA shorts lost $39B in 2020 alone
- Elon overtook Jeff Bezos to became the richest man in the world
- Tesla is still a young company and is still getting started. There are decades left in this century so the burning continues.
All of the TSLAQ trolling and FUD hasn't worked and their desperation is palpable. I get the feeling that the money that supports them is drying up as the short funds, automotive OEMs, and oil industry shrink.
- People, including most of the media, have had it out for Tesla and Elon since TSLA started
- A few year(s) back Elon warned people of the Epic Burn of the Century
- TSLA shorts lost $39B in 2020 alone
- Elon overtook Jeff Bezos to became the richest man in the world
- Tesla is still a young company and is still getting started. There are decades left in this century so the burning continues.
All of the TSLAQ trolling and FUD hasn't worked and their desperation is palpable. I get the feeling that the money that supports them is drying up as the short funds, automotive OEMs, and oil industry shrink.
I think the delay is based on the revised Model S and Model X. Software may have clues to changes to the revisions and Tesla doesnt want it out until the revised Model S and Model X are announced.Talk about arguing the minutae.
In any event, how about that v11 release? Maybe Elon has been cooking it up so now it's two fire emjois instead of one?
Judge Smails said it best:
They are probably just Trolls .. best ignored.
ladysbff
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You have owned a Model Y for less than 7 months. Seems bold to make sweeping statements about other current and previous owners.
I'll speak for myself when I say
-I spent 5 years being an Elon enthusiast before finally getting a 3
-Do zero investing, in TSLA or otherwise
-Raised in the land of Amazonville, believe me the natives here including myself aren't keen on Bezos (and yet you failed to mention the part where Elon was only the richest man for a week, BTW, that feels like FUD?)
-Finally bought a 3 because I wanted to financially support the nascent Tesla over the entrenched and ICE-producing Nissan. And because of the aforementioned personal choice to not invest in the stock market, buying a 3 despite the massive FUD in 2018 was my way of supporting Tesla's mission. I ended up having to defend my choice to buy a 3 to multiple people in 2018 and 2019. Including strangers, who seem entitled to demand answers from Tesla owners they run into in the wild. Ask me about driving through rural Idaho.
>People that insist folks speaking their truth are "trolls" validates our decision to speak our truth, maybe even to speak it twice as loud, to get past the mob of fanboys.
>I still have my trimotor Cybertruck reservation and think about cancelling it at least weekly because of the inability of Tesla's most hardcore supporters to take criticism with grace
>Fanaticism leads to unnecessary division
“The masses” don’t need to drive though.... they can take the air bus.
After reading the remarks left by people who feel they were misled about FSD all I can say is I can understand why, it seems reading comprehension isn’t their best skill.
Ok, now explain me? I've had a model 3 longer than most (over three years now), I have tesla solar, and I'm a shareholder. I am absolutely fed up with Tesla/Elon's over promising and underdelivering, *outright lies* in some cases, slipshod handling of legitimate customer concerns, and total lack of any serious attempt to establish good feedback and communications channels with customers.
some (not all) of that is expected with companies early in the startup world, but as someone who's gone from startup through IPO to established grown-up company, I don't see any reason they cannot have made great strides in improving these areas, other than hubris and contempt... or incompetence
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So... an airplane? Like a 737?
We have that now.
The discussion was about flying cars, not existing mass transit solutions that have existed for decades..
ladysbff
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When I test drove the 3, it was actually the polite young Tesla employee who accompanied me on my test drive that solidified my decision to buy the car that day. Among other FUD-informed questions, I asked "What about Elon?" Her response - looking straight into my eyes: "There are a whole lot more people working at Tesla that care deeply about the mission. It's not all about Elon."
So it's ironic to me when these fanboys distill everything down to Elon vs the world. It's that mindset that turns people off the Tesla brand. Myself recently included. I now think about that conversation with the Tesla employee differently. And for the doubters, I'm happy to post literal receipts.
bobby g
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Fraud would be, continually taking money, doing no work on it, never even thinking it would work and not caring that it would.
Pretty sure that's a Boeing. Air buses are A320, A321... xD
no. an autonomous flying bus? like a bus, but that flies. Similar to a flying car, but it would be a bus. We have Cessna already as well, but no would consider a flying car a Cessna.
Saying people are trolls doesn’t make it so. Is that what you think everyone who disagrees with you on something is? A troll? You are only coming across as a fanboy here and calling people you disagree with trolls is not helping any case you are trying to make.
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mikes_fsd
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How about we start with actual sources for those claims...
Just as a reference a quick stroll through your timeline on these forums and you've paraded your "lies damn lies" mantra through every Autopilot milestone - it seems.
in 2019 it was all about HW3 never coming.
Oh, and thinking that you were promised HW5 (that one is my favorite)...
yet you're still here in 2021... in these cases I wish competition would step the he!l up.
The following is about HW3 retrofits... Tesla autopilot HW3
oh, yeah, apparently Elon promised perpetual hardware upgrades as well. Tesla autopilot HW3
did you get your HW3 retrofit?
It seems you just enjoy shi#ing on everything Tesla, cause clearly if you could get anything remotely as good as a Tesla you would be already done with your Model 3.
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mikes_fsd
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Oh, and in 2019 when someone pointed out that you could be happier in another car (perhaps) Tesla autopilot HW3
It turns out everything that you call "lies and lack of transparency" at THAT time, turned out to be a few months delay at worst!
There's a perspective through which to see every one of your posts.
"I like the car" -- "I hate Elon"
STEMS at it's worst!
It turns out everything that you call "lies and lack of transparency" at THAT time, turned out to be a few months delay at worst!
There's a perspective through which to see every one of your posts.
"I like the car" -- "I hate Elon"
STEMS at it's worst!
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