It’s certainly moved my opinion a little lower. My wife has a VW ID3 and its infotainment and UI is so damn awful that we’re seriously considering replacing it with another Model 3. But I’m cooling on the idea with this latest update.
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V11 - what’s your verdict?
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Yep, just experienced squeaky bum time whilst trying to activate the fogs on a narrow country lane in the dark. Stupid ‘upgrade’!!
Functionally, this iteration is a step back in my opinion. The old UI was simpler and cleaner, but I think it was reaching its limit practically. I also think this new UI direction has given Tesla the potential to do much more, so hopefully they are listening to feedback.
That being said, I don't see why they would have made such distinct changes without data backing it up in the first place, so the negative feedback here might be a minority for all we know.
That being said, I don't see why they would have made such distinct changes without data backing it up in the first place, so the negative feedback here might be a minority for all we know.
I could not agree any more! This is hideous and has made me so angry. Form over function and it’s hard to argue that it looks better than it did. Change for the sake of change, someone should get fired over this!
Filbert1884
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Filbert1884
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Don't think they'll care about what we think tbf, perhaps if we were American, but even then....if Tesla really cared about end user opinion on V11, they would have beta tested it properly first.
I think the only way to get anyone at Tesla to notice would be if they suddenly started receiving thousands of service requests for "fix the bloody UI".
kelvin 660
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Isn't it like going from Win 7 to Win 10. Not many people liked the change, but a few years on not many people want to go back to Win 7...
Also Tesla will fine tune the UI based on feedback from user groups. Look at what's happening with Win 11...
One thing I don't like is the automatic heated seats (with no heated steering whee that should be addedl) that doesn't have visual feedback of heat level on the main screen.
Oh, and they buttons don't go blue when automatic mode is selected.
Also Tesla will fine tune the UI based on feedback from user groups. Look at what's happening with Win 11...
One thing I don't like is the automatic heated seats (with no heated steering whee that should be addedl) that doesn't have visual feedback of heat level on the main screen.
Oh, and they buttons don't go blue when automatic mode is selected.
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Yachtsman
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I agree with you Kelvin re windows 11 however Tesla should not have removed or a least given the opportunity to place essential driving aids such as windscreen demist, rear fog etc in the bottom tray.
It’s almost as if the designers only thought about entertainment stuff rather than actually driving the car!
So having played with it today while driving as far as I can tell these are the features which now require you to go into menus to actually use;
+ Dashcam - no longer at top of the screen - if you want to save manually you either have to hit the horn or click car icon - dashcam on the controls screen - then hit car icon / swipe to remove the menu
+ windscreen de mister - no longer at bottom of screen - now have to click climate, look at screen to see where they’ve randomly positioned the button and then click it - then swipe to get rid of the climate controls
+ seat heaters - as above or you can attempt to argue with the crap voice controls (Scottish) if you want them all turned on to full power
+ radio - now multiple separate apps - minor annoyance but looks messy and they don’t close when you switch from radio to Spotify so you have to manually close each one to get back to your map display
+ messages - still doesn’t work with iPhone (has never worked with mine - might just be me)
+ phone book - can live with it however I never used it previously I just shouted on Siri to make the call and it came up itself.
+ phone calls - no longer get phone controls popping up as a card so you have to manually press the phone app when connected to the call to cancel the call or to access the keypad.
+ fog lights - car icon -> lights menu -> fog lights then same have to swipe / press car icon to get rid of menu
+ driver profiles - if your car selects wrong profile you have to press car -> controls - in order to cancel or change it…
+ trip distance - goodbye cards now in a menu
+ tyre pressures - I assume it’s under the service menu now
+ notifications now appear at the very bottom of the pointless visualisation display which still wastes so much screen space - at least put sat nav directions in that empty space or something
Most of these are minor annoyances but seriously at least let us set the previous controls as bloody shortcuts on the bottom menu.
Also don’t really understand how this is approved given the UKs policy of “distracted driving”.
Maybe they should stop trying to impress YouTubers with all these stupid gimmicks and think about making a car that’s actually drivable by the general population!
One plus: you can now finally set the car to only unlock drivers door when first unlocking!
+ Dashcam - no longer at top of the screen - if you want to save manually you either have to hit the horn or click car icon - dashcam on the controls screen - then hit car icon / swipe to remove the menu
+ windscreen de mister - no longer at bottom of screen - now have to click climate, look at screen to see where they’ve randomly positioned the button and then click it - then swipe to get rid of the climate controls
+ seat heaters - as above or you can attempt to argue with the crap voice controls (Scottish) if you want them all turned on to full power
+ radio - now multiple separate apps - minor annoyance but looks messy and they don’t close when you switch from radio to Spotify so you have to manually close each one to get back to your map display
+ messages - still doesn’t work with iPhone (has never worked with mine - might just be me)
+ phone book - can live with it however I never used it previously I just shouted on Siri to make the call and it came up itself.
+ phone calls - no longer get phone controls popping up as a card so you have to manually press the phone app when connected to the call to cancel the call or to access the keypad.
+ fog lights - car icon -> lights menu -> fog lights then same have to swipe / press car icon to get rid of menu
+ driver profiles - if your car selects wrong profile you have to press car -> controls - in order to cancel or change it…
+ trip distance - goodbye cards now in a menu
+ tyre pressures - I assume it’s under the service menu now
+ notifications now appear at the very bottom of the pointless visualisation display which still wastes so much screen space - at least put sat nav directions in that empty space or something
Most of these are minor annoyances but seriously at least let us set the previous controls as bloody shortcuts on the bottom menu.
Also don’t really understand how this is approved given the UKs policy of “distracted driving”.
Maybe they should stop trying to impress YouTubers with all these stupid gimmicks and think about making a car that’s actually drivable by the general population!
One plus: you can now finally set the car to only unlock drivers door when first unlocking!
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To quote Elon "Tesla is technically a car like an iPhone is technically a phone"
I need my car to be a car though
Fantastic summary of the regressions. It feels like something a designer came up with as it looked “clean” vs an actual UX expert.
Mr H
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my Messages have always worked with my iphone, sending and receiving. Fog lights - press the left stalk away from you briefly and a menu will pop up
There's a reddit thread with pretty much the same list of complaints so the americans aren't keen either.
Also, Elon is known to read reddit, but less likely this forum.
Rooster6655
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Nice new features such as the blind spot camera when indicating and seems to have gotten some extra map space back, expect it to improve more but its certainly an improvement
The 2021.44.25.2 update has been frozen at 40% on my car (M3P) for over 24 hours. Reading the threads on the new UI, I think I'll leave it like this as 2021.44.6 seems just fine to me and I am not interested in light shows and other teenage games!
I stand corrected on the phone thing - although if you have an active warning message (such as put on seatbelts) the “card” is displayed behind it so you can’t actually see it - I hope it’s not the same with the lights but I didn’t test that while driving! I was playing with the phone while stopped On driveway but with car in drive.
Messages has never worked with mine and can’t find any option to enable it anywhere either in phone privacy settings, Tesla app or car (calendar, phone book and phone call history works fine)
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