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V6. - V7. Performace Test on Non-AP Car

Discussion in 'Model S' started by marcad80, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. marcad80

    marcad80 Member

    May 18, 2015
    melbourne, fl
    So, like everyone else, I have been told that the acceleration increase from the Version 7.0 upgrade was not available for the "Classic" Model S's.

    I must say, I've spent a lot of time in the Automotive industry, I can believe we are calling and being treated as "Classic" car owners with 1-2 year old cars, but another thread maybe.

    This is really the only upgrade in V7.0 that I was looking forward to. And, right or wrong, I was REALLY looking forward to it. And not getting it, I was quite disappointed. So I held off my disappointment until I did the tests myself in hopes that they were really "just kidding", and didn't want to overcommit themselves. So I ran the pre- and post acceleration tests on my S60. My car is Vin 10xxx, standard with few options. Here are the results:

    Version 6.x, 0-60mph tests: AVERAGE 5.54 sec, BEST 5.49 sec

    Run 1 5.59sec, Run 2 5.59, Run 3 5.49sec, Run 4 5.51 sec

    Version 7.0, 0-60 mph tests: AVERAGE 5.46 sec, BEST 5.42 sec

    Run 1 5.42, Run 2 5.46, Run 3 5.51

    After crunching the numbers I wasn't really sure whether to believe there was a little improvement or whether this fell into condition and measurement error. But then after looking at the data a little closer, I saw something that stuck out. The 50-60mph times seemed to carry a disproportionate amount of the 0-60 time difference....

    Version 6.x, 50-60mph tests: AVERAGE 1.30 sec

    Version 7.0, 50-60 mph tests: AVERAGE 1.23 sec

    Almost all of the 0.08 sec difference was accounted for in the 0.07 difference between 50-60 mph......

    After seeing this, I'm not so sure if environmental or measurement differences would have applied only between 50-60mph, and not throughout the entire speed range. Had I seen this drop in time apply evenly across the test speeds, I would have written this difference off. But knowing where they applied performance improvements and seeing the drop in time shift in this specific speed range and it magnitude of 5% difference, I'm not sure I can write it off to measurement error.

    After testing, I'm not as disappointed with the V7.0 as I was before, because I'm not sure there wasn't some performance improvement made here. But I will say, if there was, I was hoping for at least twice this reduction in 0-60 times...

    (If anyone is interested in the test set-up, I will write in a later post.)
  2. SouthlakeDad

    SouthlakeDad Member

    Oct 13, 2015
    DFW, Texas
    This is very interesting. I also have a "classic" S, non-P, delivered to original owner in 9/2014. I've had it for a month and was also looking forward to the improved acceleration, even though it's completely unnecessary for the way I drive.

    I'm curious whether your other "splits" (e.g. 0-10, 20-30, etc.) exhibited changes that seemed to be other than random variations. Also, how consistent was the 50-60 mph variation across your three tests?

    I'm not sure any of these results are statistically significant (or even butt-in-seat significant), but to have essentially all of the change isolated in that one acceleration zone does seem remarkable.
  3. ByICE

    ByICE Member

    Jul 14, 2013
    Fairfield County, CT
    That is extra 5.6 feet at 55mph!

    It's also possible that your foot got very heavy from all this waiting....
  4. Thud

    Thud Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    Even on an 85kwh Model S with autopilot, which supposedly *did* receive the performance upgrade, it's not anything measurable by my cheesy method (recording videos of the speedometer). I only did runs to 60mph so maybe it performs better on a 60-90mph run with 7.0.

    The revised throttle curve makes much more of a difference.
  5. Crusoe

    Crusoe Member

    Apr 13, 2012
    So where are we now? I thought I saw some info that the S60 had better HP/ft-lb/top speed and ~5.6 0-60 but can't find it anywhere.
    The original specs on my S60 were:
    "The S 60 was equipped with a 302 HP 317 ft-lb torque rear motor with a top speed of 110 mph and 0-60 mph acceleration in 5.9 seconds."

    I bought my S used a few months ago so I didn't experience all the updates. Wondering if new numbers were contingent on new batteries revisions/later S60s or just firmware.
  6. apacheguy

    apacheguy Sig 255, VIN 320

    Oct 21, 2012
    So Cal
    I don't believe that we have definitive proof that 7.0 improved performance even in AP models. At least no evidence has been shown that I recall.

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