Valet your 3

[Cricket88]

So my wife handed our Model 3 to a valet yesterday and they left the key card in the vehicle. After a few minutes the car locked itself with the card in it and the valet couldn’t get back into the car... so just a precaution if you do so, you may need to do one of two things:
1) alert the valet not to leave the card in the vehicle

2) disable auto lock on exit??

Haven’t tried #2 yet but probably should to see if the car remains unlocked..

 

[MP3Mike]

So my wife handed our Model 3 to a valet yesterday and they left the key card in the vehicle. After a few minutes the car locked itself with the card in it and the valet couldn’t get back into the car... so just a precaution if you do so, you may need to do one of two things:
1) alert the valet not to leave the card in the vehicle

2) disable auto lock on exit??

Haven’t tried #2 yet but probably should to see if the car remains unlocked..

Interesting since I thought that auto-lock on walk away didn't work with the card. So maybe it "locked" when your wife walked away and then they parked it and got out without unlocking it?

For them to lock the car they would have to hold the card to the B pillar.

Sounds like there may be some bugs in the phone as a key system.

 

[T-Will]

I was curious how the locking worked when you only have the keycard. So you need to touch the keycard to the B pillar to lock the car when you exit (if you don't have your phone nearby)?

 

[MP3Mike]

I was curious how the locking worked when you only have the keycard. So you need to touch the keycard to the B pillar to lock the car when you exit (if you don't have your phone nearby)?

Yep.

 

[Big Earl]

Here's my take:

The car didn't recognize that the card was inside of it since the RFID has a very short range. Since you had phone-as-key configured and auto locking activated, the car went ahead and locked itself.

This seems like a problem that needs to be addressed. Perhaps putting the car in valet mode can disable the automatic phone-as-key functions? Maybe it does that already and your wife didn't enable valet mode?

 

[Cricket88]

When I took delivery of the car, we left both key cards in the car and as we did the walk around, the doors locked with the cards inside the vehicle.

My phone was already paired to the car. The Delivery Specialist stated the behavior was normal. Phone precedes the card...

I’ll have to do some more testing but I just confirmed that if you disable lock on walk-away, the car remains unlocked (with or without phone Involved)

 

[Cricket88]

Here's my take:

The car didn't recognize that the card was inside of it since the RFID has a very short range. Since you had phone-as-key configured and auto locking activated, the car went ahead and locked itself.

This seems like a problem that needs to be addressed. Perhaps putting the car in valet mode can disable the automatic phone-as-key functions? Maybe it does that already and your wife didn't enable valet mode?

She did not try valet mode... getting her used to the car vs her Land Rover was already a learning curve as it is...

 

[Runt8]

When I took delivery of the car, we left both key cards in the car and as we did the walk around, the doors locked with the cards inside the vehicle.

My phone was already paired to the car. The Delivery Specialist stated the behavior was normal. Phone precedes the card...

I’ll have to do some more testing but I just confirmed that if you disable lock on walk-away, the car remains unlocked (with or without phone Involved)

The car doesn't have any idea that the cards are inside unless they happen to be placed on the reader just behind the cupholder. I'm thinking this is more that the phone was the only key it could sense, and had nothing to do with priority.

 

[insaneoctane]

Does the "valet" setting in the GUI help with any of this?

 

[ybbor]

I'm really curious if "valet" mode will change this behavior. Otherwise this could be annoying whenever we are forced to valet.

 

[jsmay311]

Slightly OT, but I also wonder if valets will have problems keeping track of the cards. Normally don't they put little keyrings with an ID tag onto a key to identify it, and then use that keyring to hang up the key to store it in an organized fashion? They won't be able to do the same with a card.

Adapting their processes to identify and store cards instead of keys will likely take some time to work out, and early adopters might run into issues.

 

[Trips]

Slightly OT, but I also wonder if valets will have problems keeping track of the cards. Normally don't they put little keyrings with an ID tag onto a key to identify it, and then use that keyring to hang up the key to store it in an organized fashion? They won't be able to do the same with a card.

Adapting their processes to identify and store cards instead of keys will likely take some time to work out, and early adopters might run into issues.

I would think they could but a sticker with a loop on it if they wanted to hang it up. The other option would be to put it in one of those hotel key holders with the numbered spot labeled. When I valet they normally take the keys with them.

 

[S3XY]

I'd consider getting something like this with a key ring and leave it in the car. If a valet situation arises you can pop your card into it and the valet will be able to hang it.

 

[DinoJC]

I'd consider getting something like this with a key ring and leave it in the car. If a valet situation arises you can pop your card into it and the valet will be able to hang it.

And where did you get that from?

 

[EVnut]

Nifty gadget for the card. I was just searching the forum for how people manage to "hang" the card, and here it is! I'm wondering if there are blank places in the card where a hole can be punched (I do this with hotel card keys all the time, but in that case, I just need to miss the magnetic stripe). I can think of several reasons to want a hang-hole in the Model 3 cards - even just hanging one on my key hook at home.

 

[Chewy3]

I would hand the card to the Valet and let them know 'press it on the B-pillar to lock the car'. 1) ensures the take the card out of the car. 2) ensures your car gets locked

Slightly OT, but I also wonder if valets will have problems keeping track of the cards. Normally don't they put little keyrings with an ID tag onto a key to identify it, and then use that keyring to hang up the key to store it in an organized fashion? They won't be able to do the same with a card.

Adapting their processes to identify and store cards instead of keys will likely take some time to work out, and early adopters might run into issues.

I plan to put mine inside my phone case (pops off in 2 seconds). I'll never forget it, won't take up any more space, and should my phone ever die - I should be able to use the card through the case.

 

[S3XY]

And where did you get that from?

We were given them with our ID cards at work. I didn't search for a place to order one but some of the TMC vendors (RPMTesla for one) sell something similar in function.

 

[LadyMacbrat]

And where did you get that from?

Amazon!