I've been planning for awhile to get a used S85. My thought was that when the Model X delivers, a good proportion will upgrade for the size, AWD and whatever other new things are built into the X. This would finally lead to a robust used S85 market. The S 2.0 or D has changed the dynamic for me a bit. As I look at autopilot and numerous little upgrades that we haven't seen yet - these things I value at $5k. Most of the value is in the autopilot and enhanced safety. Then I never expected to want AWD but the range/efficiency increase was unexpected in its magnitude. The drivetrain warranty extension cuts the downside also. Then those seats....fixing one of the big things. So as I consider what I would pay for a 1 year old 15,000 mile Model S, I feel like I'd have to get it for $60k to make me not go for a new one. I'm guessing that we won't see good (and with tech) S85s at $60k for awhile. The new carrots are just making new worthwhile. After a few years of price increases, we have been gradually getting value increases. Making used harder to justify - and frankly impossible at today's values. I am thinking the used market will take a while to adequately (at least for me) adjust to increasing features in the newer models. Or will we see S85s with tech at $60k soon?