kingkong5
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I see what you are saying. Two wrongs don't make a right (but three lefts do)So you thought it was a good idea to create a newer bill of sale?
Terrible situation, but it's almost like you attempted to actively make it worse.
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I see what you are saying. Two wrongs don't make a right (but three lefts do)So you thought it was a good idea to create a newer bill of sale?
Terrible situation, but it's almost like you attempted to actively make it worse.
And how does that make it worse? They won't transfer it, so I'm in the same situation either way. It did not make anything worse and exposes the hypocrisy.So you thought it was a good idea to create a newer bill of sale?
Terrible situation, but it's almost like you attempted to actively make it worse.
Put yourself on the other end...especially knowing the incompetency there...They get the "previous owner" stating that the bill of sale is fake and then sends a fake bill of sale. It was a dumb move...I'm not sure if there's a way to spin it, especially if they collect everything for law enforcement.And how does that make it worse? They won't transfer it, so I'm in the same situation either way. It did not make anything worse and exposes the hypocrisy.
It reminds me of stories where people get receive bills and get sent to collections over a balance of $0.00. It's just easier to send the $0 check than to use logic. I hope it works for you.But it's not a fake bill of sale. I own the vehicle. I sold it to myself.
I have the title and registration. What more can I provide, except a bill of sale at that point, that supercedes the other bill of sale?
Second, I'd join Tesla's bug bounty program found here. Tell them you've discovered a bug in their system which helps you easily steal only Tesla's. . Might as well get paid for your trouble.
Really? It seems like an odd step after they say "The problem is we have two people claiming the vehicle is theirs and this new person claiming the vehicle is theirs has provided a more current bill of sale."
They are clearly and unequivocally saying a more current bill of sale is enough to transfer the vehicle. So sending a more current bill of sale seems odd to you? Wow.
Let's not forgot one of them has a current registration and title as well, which was already provided.
I doubt it they could disable it. That requires the current email address/password for the account that the vehicle is linked to.-Presumably Naonak has disabled mobile access via the main screen to prevent theft via mobile app. Can Tesla remotely re-engage mobile app access if the "new" owner requests it?
The reason I brought up my questions - should an owner go down this attorney route, it wouldn't surprise me in the least for Tesla's response to be "thanks for the letter, to resolve the situation we've removed the ability for the VIN in question to be part of any Tesla account, have permanently disabled Supercharging, have permanently disabled mobile app access, have a nice day."I suggest you contact an attorney. Attorney should be able to write a letter telling Tesla to fix this or face civil suit. May cost you $500 to get the letter written. Attorney letterhead has a way of getting action and offering credibility to you. Attorney should be able to attest to the validity of your claims. That should be enough to get this escalated to someone at Tesla that will work with you to get this resolved. If not, it sounds like you will need to initiate a civil case to motivate Tesla to straighten this out.
For all intents and purpose you are in this situation already. You cant supercharge, you don't have mobile access and you probably cant schedule service.The reason I brought up my questions - should an owner go down this attorney route, it wouldn't surprise me in the least for Tesla's response to be "thanks for the letter, to resolve the situation we've removed the ability for the VIN in question to be part of any Tesla account, have permanently disabled Supercharging, have permanently disabled mobile app access, have a nice day."
I agree and I don't think that Tesla would tell the OP to pound sand and lock up his car because he sent a legitimate letter from his attorney. Effectively, they are stealing his car if they do. It just needs to go to the right department. That's an attorney's job. To map that out.For all intents and purpose you are in this situation already. You cant supercharge, you don't have mobile access and you probably cant schedule service.
... and you probably cant sell the car...