TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
Start a Discussionhttps://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/tags/

ventilated tan leather seats worn out after a few days

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by Emanuel, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. Emanuel

    Emanuel New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Location:
    Germany
    Hi guys,

    I'm Emanuel from Germany and my father bought himself a brandnew Model S 90d. He ordered it right at the end of 2016 because free SC was going to end^^ He chose the tan leather seats in contrast to the black exterior color. He also added the premium package and got ventilated seats. The car reached Berlin on the 20th of May 2017.
    A few days later the passenger seat already had two big folds/wrinkels on the seating surface and the driver's seat followed two weeks later. We have been to the service center already and they ordered new seats, but after reading some other comments/feedback on the ventilated leather seats I wonder if this is going to be a long term solution. I guess the seats are going to wear out again after a few days/weeks of usage and we will be unhappy again. The idea was to keep this car for a long period of time and we are still planning on it because it's a great car overall, but not with these seats.
    Does anybody of you guys have some advice/experience/solution on our issue with the ventilated leather seats?

    Thank you!
     
  2. Vern Padgett

    Vern Padgett Proud and Grinning Model S90D owners

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2006
    Messages:
    258
    Location:
    Whittier, California
    I searched on "ventilated seats" and found a few hundred posts in about 25 different threads, all concerned with ventilated seats.
     
  3. JasJ

    JasJ Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2017
    Messages:
    242
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    975036B1-DAE8-4CBC-A13E-916B9DDDAF74.JPG The new premium leather non-ventalited seats are not much better. This is picture of the 'replacement' seat I just received from service after complaining of numerous wrinkles with the delivered seat. This second seat is not much better. The service center suggested we wait for the next re-design and they will replace both front seats in our new MS. Crazy. I just want the new premium seat they show in the pictures and in the gallery storefront. No wrinkles at the start. These seats look like they are from a three year old vehicle and not one day old.
     
  4. X Fan

    X Fan Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2015
    Messages:
    896
    Location:
    Naples, FL & OIB, NC
    White seats are the answer.
     
    • Like x 1
  5. pilotSteve

    pilotSteve Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2012
    Messages:
    907
    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Agreed! Granted it’s only been 6 months and 12,000 miles but my late 2016 ultra white ventilated seats are perfect condition. And I love the ventilation in hot weather.
     
    • Informative x 1
  6. Emanuel

    Emanuel New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Location:
    Germany
    Because they are not made out of this obviously too thin leather, right?
    But I think they won't re-furnish our whole car with them :(
     
  7. Emanuel

    Emanuel New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Location:
    Germany
    That is in fact crazy. Thank you for sharing your experience. I will keep you up with mine!
     
    • Informative x 1
  8. Vern Padgett

    Vern Padgett Proud and Grinning Model S90D owners

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2006
    Messages:
    258
    Location:
    Whittier, California
    I'm sorry I got the leather seats. There were no ventilated seats available when I bought, a bit over a year ago. I'm thinking that fabric seats would have been better-- not so miserably hot?
     
  9. SMAlset

    SMAlset Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    916
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    #9 SMAlset, Jul 12, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
    Saying the leather seats are worn out makes it sound like the leather surface is rubbed off exposing the soft leather skin below. The leather instead is wrinkled. Each piece of leather is different because it is from individual skins of the animal and will react in its own way when stretched and sewn.

    Leather clothing like skirts, pants, shoes even quality grain ones will sometimes develop wrinkles or cracks in them. This topic has been discussed in other posts. With a thinner soft leather I think it is something likely to appear. My Avalon's leather seats are made from a thicker leather and these have imperfections, more cracking or creasing.
     
  10. JasJ

    JasJ Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2017
    Messages:
    242
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Agree, but wrinkles should not show up in a few days from brand new (or in my case at delivery).
     
    • Like x 1
  11. Kurt'sX

    Kurt'sX Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    Messages:
    77
    Location:
    San Diego
    Recently had Service Center replace my tan leather ventilated drivers seat with 8K miles on it. Very bad wrinkle in the seat area.
    They took 9 weeks to get the part in, and now its been about 500 miles of driving and the new seat is developing the same wrinkle.

    Not sure what the solution is, but I have similar seats in my 10 year old Mercedes and they look like new. I was thinking of stopping in at my local upholstery shop and seeing what they think. Im wondering if it may be the foam under lay, or perhaps they just dont pull the seats tight enough during manufacture stage.

    One thing I know for sure.....I paid $5k for the leather vented seat package and Im not happy with the results.
     
    • Helpful x 1
    • Informative x 1
  12. aesculus

    aesculus Still Trying to Figure this All Out

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    2,515
    Location:
    Northern California
    Some of this has to do with the humidity when it was built vs what it is for you now. If they gained a lot of moisture they can often wrinkle.

    You might be able to get a upholstery shop to shrink the seats by applying heat to them and then before the moisture comes back treat them with a leather conditioner. I would not try this at home though.;)
     
    • Informative x 1
  13. Mark Z

    Mark Z Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,621
    Location:
    North Orange County
    When I first received Model X in 2015, there were a few wrinkles. My detailer said it was common with the finer quality leather used in high end vehicles. That information helped greatly and I enjoyed the quality of the seats!

    The 2017 Model S is better, but I use a tan cotton jersey pillowcase from Target to sit on. It helps with color transfer and the seat bottom still looks like new. The perforated ventilation helps on hot days.

    The worst perforated tan leather seat condition witnessed several months ago was a floor model at the Brea Mall. Wrinkled and dirty, the color transfer was visible from all the customers sitting in the Model S. I look forward to checking the seat wear of Model 3.
     
    • Informative x 1

Share This Page