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Not true. You don't get credit for CA tax because you were not REQUIRED to pay the CA tax. CA does not charge sales tax when the car is temporarily registered to an out-of-state buyer.You see, if I buy the car directly from California, New York gets no sales or use tax on it -- the California rate is higher, and the NY use tax is cancelled out by subtracting the tax paid to California.
Not true. You don't get credit for CA tax because you were not REQUIRED to pay the CA tax. CA does not charge sales tax when the car is temporarily registered to an out-of-state buyer.
Are you sure this is true? I believe it is true for most states but I thought California was different. Even as an out of state buyer if you take possession in California you must pay sales tax. I've run into this before when I was considering buying a car that was at a dealer's lot in CA. They offered to transport the car to Las Vegas and have me take possession there to get around it. Most other states have a clause that allows an out of state buyer to take possession without paying sales tax and obtain a 10-day temporary "drive away" registration so that you can legally drive it out of the state.
Exactly. When I bought mine I paid TX tax, not CA. Neroden described buying the car "from California" as all of us in non- sales states do. He is not required to take possession there, not required to pay tax there, so he doesn't get credit in NY for taxes paid elsewhere because he wasn't required to pay them.For those of us in states that don't allow Tesla to directly sell, Tesla arranges the sale so you don't take possession in CA. When I bought mine, I had to sign a certification that I would not take delivery in CA. When I took it to the AZ MVD to register it, I was charged AZ use tax...
I was assuming California pickup. For some reason, which doesn't really make sense, does it? (I guess because my family has bought cars in California and driven them back to NY before.)Both you and TexasEV are correct -- depending on where you take possession.
If you take possession in CA, then you will pay CA sales tax. If you take possession outside CA, then there is no CA sales tax on the sale.
OK, I take your point. Most people would probably just take the direct drop-ship rather than travelling to pick up the car.Exactly. When I bought mine I paid TX tax, not CA. Neroden described buying the car "from California" as all of us in non- sales states do. He is not required to take possession there, not required to pay tax there, so he doesn't get credit in NY for taxes paid elsewhere because he wasn't required to pay them.
Not true. You don't get credit for CA tax because you were not REQUIRED to pay the CA tax. CA does not charge sales tax when the car is temporarily registered to an out-of-state buyer.
Ironic that someone who is always complaining about something Tesla's lawyers did or didn't do, would be giving bad tax law advice.
Both you and TexasEV are correct -- depending on where you take possession.
If you take possession in CA, then you will pay CA sales tax. If you take possession outside CA, then there is no CA sales tax on the sale.
For those of us in states that don't allow Tesla to directly sell, Tesla arranges the sale so you don't take possession in CA. When I bought mine, I had to sign a certification that I would not take delivery in CA. When I took it to the AZ MVD to register it, I was charged AZ use tax...
Not true. You don't get credit for CA tax because you were not REQUIRED to pay the CA tax. CA does not charge sales tax when the car is temporarily registered to an out-of-state buyer.
Ironic that someone who is always complaining about something Tesla's lawyers did or didn't do, would be giving bad tax law advice.
I love it. I should have gotten a FL temp tag, had my MS transported across the state line then driven back for a factory tour while offering Sacramento the middle finger. Oh well, maybe next time.
A guy I used to work for told a story that might have bearing on this.
He had a friend that lived in New Hampshire. The guy bought a car, registered it here in NH and had it for an amount of time I can't remember. Some moths at least had passed when he decided to move to Massachusetts to be closer to work. After moving, he went to change the registration on his car from NH to MA and they demanded sales tax from him.
He refused to pay. He packed his belongings and moved back to NH within weeks.
As he was travelling back with the moving truck and convoy of cars with friends helping him, he pulled over at the NH/MA state line. He stood in NH, unzipped his fly and.. Well.. Let's say he graphically expressed his opinion into Massachusetts.
I wonder how long you have to hold on to a car before some state you move into wont try to extort sales taxes from you.
I love it. I should have gotten a FL temp tag, had my MS transported across the state line then driven back for a factory tour while offering Sacramento the middle finger. Oh well, maybe next time.