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Yep. Even if you're the best driver in the world, racing against some other idiot is not a good idea.
If they were in California, wouldn't their cars be confiscated?
Yep, "speed contests" on public roads are illegal in California, even if you stay under the speed limit:It's not that they were speeding; they were racing.
You are a spectator if you watch or are present at an illegal speed contest or at a location (public street or highway, or private property) where preparations are being made for such activities, for the purpose of viewing, observing, watching, or witnessing the event as it develops. Anyone who engages, aids, or participates at a speed contest violates the law and could be cited.
What Happens if I Speed Race?
The following are some of the penalties you can face if you street race:
Be arrested and have your vehicle impounded for 30 days.
Be imprisoned for up to three months if convicted of street racing, or aiding or abetting a street race.
Be fined for up to $1,000.
Have your driver license revoked.
Have your vehicle's insurance canceled or premiums dramatically increased.
Have equipment violations issued.
NOTE: Spectators are also subject to the same penalties.
No way, unless you can show that they had intentionally followed these guys to watch them race, they are just bystanders who happen to be observant. Why are your posts so "pro-street racer"?Wonder if every state has a similar law. This is golden:
So, by the definition of the law, the people behind these guys are spectators, as are we for watching the video.
Irrelelant--they were driving in a reckless manner--had a biker crossed in front of them their rapid rate of acceleration (not to mention clear lack of ability to control their vehicles) could kill the biker--they present a clear risk to themselves and the public on a public roadway.Don't know the speed limit there, but looks like they hit 45, 50 at max. A bit crazy, but nothing insane. It just happened to end badly, as things sometimes do.
No way, unless you can show that they had intentionally followed these guys to watch them race, they are just bystanders who happen to be observant. Why are your posts so "pro-street racer"?
Irrelelant--they were driving in a reckless manner--had a biker crossed in front of them their rapid rate of acceleration (not to mention clear lack of ability to control their vehicles) could kill the biker--they present a clear risk to themselves and the public on a public roadway.
It was 3 posts--the first one you expressed you were more annoyed with the videographer than the racers, then the other 2 that I quoted above, and none of those 3 did you suggest that the racers might have been in any way in the wrong. Sorry if I've misconstrewed your intent, that can certainly happen here quite easily. IMO, this is a clear and obvious 2 idiots with toys doing something very bad in a very bad place....very clear and simple. Quick to judge--maybe, but after seeing that video the onus is on those racers to prove to me that there was anything even slightly reasonable or safe about what they did and I'll bust their balls until the moment they do. I see far to many patients that injure or kill themselves or others as a result of such sophomoric behavior.Whoa, take it down a notch there. I made 2 posts, and I'm not advocating street racing, I'm just not someone that automatically jumps to the "OMG burn them at the stake" way of thinking. I didn't know about the speed display law, hence I didn't see how they would have gotten their car confiscated like they were driving way over the speed limit.
As for the law, I misread it. It read to me like anyone watching it was considered a spectator. Or... Maybe you're right, and I'm just a street racing advocate. Where's the stake?
Oops, I won't get the sport version of Model S. Much too tempting...
It was 3 posts--the first one you expressed you were more annoyed with the videographer than the racers, then the other 2 that I quoted above, and none of those 3 did you suggest that the racers might have been in any way in the wrong. Sorry if I've misconstrewed your intent, that can certainly happen here quite easily. IMO, this is a clear and obvious 2 idiots with toys doing something very bad in a very bad place....very clear and simple. Quick to judge--maybe, but after seeing that video the onus is on those racers to prove to me that there was anything even slightly reasonable or safe about what they did and I'll bust their balls until the moment they do. I see far to many patients that injure or kill themselves or others as a result of such sophomoric behavior.
Don't worry Volker, just watch a few of these videos and hang out on WreckedExotics.com for a while and all temptation will be removed. :smile:
About 3 p.m. a low-flying pelican distracted him as he traveled north on Interstate 45 just south of the hurricane levee near Omega Bay.