Apple is outdated, billionaire Chinese tech rival says What makes this more painful for Tesla is that this comment was being used to demonstrate that Apple was behind by copying Tesla and incrementally improving on Tesla's design rather than looking at it from a virtual* virtual reality experience point of view (what I infer reading between the lines of what he's saying). Essentially, Tesla is used as the example of what Apple is better than, and not "better enough" -- which puts Tesla in third place in that ranking. Here's a post I made about his Apple comments: I rarely agree with Chinese, but this time, I do, re: Apple, innovation, apps vs open ecosystem • /r/apple This Chinese guy is really smart, and I agree with a lot of stuff he says. I never knew he existed until now. * I said "virtual virtual" to get across the point that VR should seamlessly float across devices, not tied to a particular device, even though I don't think there's ever a reason for anybody to use the phrase "virtual virtual" again, since I think this should be well understood in the future. ==== Followup: Someone pointed out in a short term competitive environment: "No pain here. Talk is cheap. Let's see the products. We have heard dozens of similar boasts without seeing a significant challenge to Tesla." So, I take it a little longer term, in response: Fair point. I just thought of that myself: the Chinese have been like SG-1's Goa'uld, stealing everything they know. The question remains whether or not they can now seamlessly take this understanding and continue on their own. They are so efficient at stealing, that it may be indistinguishable from original innovation, at which point there lies the danger: that they might be able to start doing original innovation without competition noticing, and by then, competition falls behind, and at this level, rapidly. But for now, Tesla is shipping EV's. Where the virtual pods of the future go, we don't know, but SpaceX+Tesla is sure to see being a part, if they succeed or not, and right now, they have everything going for them.