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Volkswagen Drive Technologies: Part 1 - Electric Drives

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by Brick_top, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Brick_top

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    new video from volkswagen

     
  2. vgrinshpun

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    Well, there is no transmission, no exhaust - why there is rear passenger area hump? I hope it is NOT their new platform...
     
  3. Brick_top

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    this might be the new golf with 300km range... no idea
     
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    shhh its part of the hidden technology package that VW doesnt want you to know about
     
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    Good for them... now bring it to market in a shell that doesn't look like a Toyota Marai or BMW i3 but more like a conventional car (oh and keep all the blue/green badges to an extreme minimum).
     
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    The battery/engine locations are so familiar...
     
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    > why there is rear passenger area hump? [vgrinshpun]

    To fill every available (unused) space with battery. So you've never seen a car with rear seat removed?
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    I actually like their battery layout - there are a number of efficiency reasons that Teslas battery layout works but the large flat battery also makes the floor so high in Model S that the rear seating is a little awkward. The VW battery layout will give occupants a more traditional seating arrangement.
     
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    Thanks for pointing the obvious. My point is that this is an adaptation of an ICE car platform. Advantages of electric platform can be fully realized only by starting with the clean sheet of paper.
    If it is indeed video showing new VW EV platform, it does not look good for Volkswagen.
     
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    > this is an adaptation of an ICE car platform [vgrinshpun]

    Not necessarily the bugaboo you imagine. Engineering the possible often wins over clean sheet.
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    Well, it's a little presumptuous to assume that you know what I imagine.

    The point is that adapting the existing iCE platform does not produce the best EV. Designing battery pack into the entirety of the underbody as done by Tesla allows to double duty the battery pack casing as a fully utilized structural member of the car body, improving stiffness and saving on weight. This opportunity is partially lost when Adopting ICE design.
     
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    Remember cars used to look like horse carriages?

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    They probably re-purposed a fossil fuel chassis which already had the center hump. They just fill the hump with batteries. That way they can make a fossil fuel and electric version of the car using the same chassis. They're not ready to fully commit to EVs.
    After all, people EXPECT there to be a hump in the middle of the car... isn't that they way all cars are made?
     
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    The video has the tone of something like: "Look, we've just invented the electric car and this is a simple explanation for morons (apologies to morons)".
     
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    The vehicle pictured is the currently sold e-Golf. It is obviously an adaptation of their ICE Golf, but they did add additional bumps in the floorpan so they could use the extra space under the front seats. All that just to fit 24.2kWh of batteries in the first gen e-Golf. Second gen fits 35.8kWh in the same space, much like the increased capacity of the i3 second gen battery pack.
     
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    No news or innovations at all and no creativity whatsoever. One would think VW, given their current dreadful situation, would want to leapfrog over the current EV designs but they appear stuck in an ICE past.
     
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    Much of Europe is still 'happy' with ICE engines or hybrids... now with Trump, no telling where the US will go :(
     

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