Vredestein Space Master spare

[Pianewman]

Nosken: Forgive my lack of manners. Thank you for finding this wheel/tire. I had given up hope that this could be done.

jcanoe: The VredesteinSpaceMaster is a much wider tire than the ModernSpare and won't fit in the frunk. I posted earlier about the Modern Spare fitting in the frunk, lying down with the liner removed. I considered making a bracket to keep it from riding on the AC compressor, but after hearing from several who questioned the potential for compromise to the "crumple zones" in an accident, as well as significant damage to sensitive systems in front of the firewall, I dismissed the Modern Spare as an option.

That said, I think the Vredestein is going to suit my needs perfectly. I need to figure out how to secure it in the trunk deep well, but there is sufficient space for the jack and tools in the well, with additional space for soft goods.

 

[thesmokingman]

I am glad I found that one for all you Model Y people! When you are searching around see if you can find one for my Model S Plaid. It is 5X120.

Have you tried doing a search by lug pattern? There's also like half a dozen alternatives for 5x114.3. For ex.

5x120 - Bolt pattern, what cars have 5x120 wheels? 120 found

5x120 bolt pattern - found 120. Which vehicles use the 5x120 bolt pattern on their wheels?

sizemywheels.com

 

[Pianewman]

thesmokingman: The biggest problem I found during my searching was the age of most of them on EBay. Seriously, most were 8-15 years old, so the rubber would be questionable.

 

[Nosken]

Have you tried doing a search by lug pattern? There's also like half a dozen alternatives for 5x114.3. For ex.

5x120 - Bolt pattern, what cars have 5x120 wheels? 120 found

5x120 bolt pattern - found 120. Which vehicles use the 5x120 bolt pattern on their wheels?

sizemywheels.com

Yes, thank you, that’s how I stumbled upon the one for the Model Y.

 

[thesmokingman]

thesmokingman: The biggest problem I found during my searching was the age of most of them on EBay. Seriously, most were 8-15 years old, so the rubber would be questionable.

Yea, that's to be expected. During the initial life of a car not many owners are elect to getting rid of their spare. We have to wait for crashed/salvage etc. However the space saver spare tire itself isn't too expensive to purchase new. They're up to 150, so if in the worse case one could source the right rim it might be doable.

For me, I'm waiting till the foam PZeros wear out and I'll switch to regular non-foam tires and carry fix flat.

 

[Pianewman]

Yea, that's to be expected. During the initial life of a car not many owners are elect to getting rid of their spare. We have to wait for crashed/salvage etc. However the space saver spare tire itself isn't too expensive to purchase new. They're up to 150, so if in the worse case one could source the right rim it might be doable.

For me, I'm waiting till the foam PZeros wear out and I'll switch to regular non-foam tires and carry fix flat.

Where have you found space saver tires available? Vredestein told me, during a phone conversation, that they were NOT available separately from the rim.

 

[thesmokingman]

Where have you found space saver tires available? Vredestein told me, during a phone conversation, that they were NOT available separately from the rim.

For ex.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.americastire.com

 

[Pianewman]

You're referring to something different than the Vredestein Space Master, which is a collapsible tire, not a traditional "donut" spare. AFAIK, these are available ONLY from dealerships, with wheel/rim, and are unavailable separately.

 

[zikronix]

Will this think fit in the sub trunk, what is the size of it in its compressed state

 

[Pianewman]

The space intrusion is minimal, about 4 1/2" high. The hydraulic jack/breaker bar are nestled under the wheel, with space for soft goods in the wheel cavity.

Rather than cut the OEM trunk floorboard, I used 1/2" plywood (<$30), covered in $7.99/yd. synthetic felt. Doesn't match the texture of OEM, but close enough for now. I'll investigate finding a hunk of thin automotive carpet.

I need to figure out how to secure the wheel to the back of the trunk. I'll need to remove the trunk liner and see what's there.

This takes up a LOT less space than the Modern Spare.

 

[JKad]

The space intrusion is minimal, about 4 1/2" high. The hydraulic jack/breaker bar are nestled under the wheel, with space for soft goods in the wheel cavity.

Rather than cut the OEM trunk floorboard, I used 1/2" plywood (<$30), covered in $7.99/yd. synthetic felt. Doesn't match the texture of OEM, but close enough for now. I'll investigate finding a hunk of thin automotive carpet.

I need to figure out how to secure the wheel to the back of the trunk. I'll need to remove the trunk liner and see what's there.

This takes up a LOT less space than the Modern Spare.

Could you please post a link for where you got this rim/tire/jack/etc. ?

 

[Pianewman]

Jack: HarborFreight

Rim/Tire: OEM equipment on Maserati Levante, 2017-present. New from dealer, close to $1,000.

nosken, forum member here, located this one at PartsLink. Completely new, never mounted, for $298, including shipping.

Vredestein does NOT sell the SpaceMaster retail, AFAIK, only offers it as OEM equipment for various brands. When I spoke with them last year, they weren't interested in cross-referencing for me, checking offset, hub diameter, lug bolt pattern. For sure, this particular Maserati spare bolts up perfectly to the Model Y, has the appropriate load rating.

I'm grateful to nosken for finding the one I bought. I you're interested, you'll need to comb the internet to find another one.

 

[zikronix]

Jack: HarborFreight

Rim/Tire: OEM equipment on Maserati Levante, 2017-present. New from dealer, close to $1,000.

nosken, forum member here, located this one at PartsLink. Completely new, never mounted, for $298, including shipping.

Vredestein does NOT sell the SpaceMaster retail, AFAIK, only offers it as OEM equipment for various brands. When I spoke with them last year, they weren't interested in cross-referencing for me, checking offset, hub diameter, lug bolt pattern. For sure, this particular Maserati spare bolts up perfectly to the Model Y, has the appropriate load rating.

I'm grateful to nosken for finding the one I bought. I you're interested, you'll need to comb the internet to find another one.

Which jack also check your messages lol

 

[Pianewman]

1.5 ton low profile.

 

[Pianewman]

1st photo, looking down into trunk well. The wheel is canted at an angle to reduce intrusion into the trunk area. It COULD be stood up vertically, but the woul clearly take up more vertical space.

Also, the wheel is off center to accommodate the 1.5 ton jack, which isn't symmetrical.

I found some inexpensive auto "carpet" online from Home Depot. It almost matches OEM, looks better than the felt. Now I need to cover the tire/wheel in the same material, and it will virtually disappear.

 

[Nosken]

found some inexpensive auto "carpet" online from Home Depot. It almost matches OEM, looks better than the felt. Now I need to cover the tire/wheel in the same material, and it will virtually disappear.

Home Depot link-Please

 

[Pianewman]

Auto Carpet in Black Store SKU # 1005557219 Internet # 313938028

$37.07

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$37.07

Frankly, you could probably find a better quality at an auto upholstery shop. I just wanted to get it done.

 

[DanDi58]

Auto Carpet in Black Store SKU # 1005557219 Internet # 313938028

$37.07

1

$37.07

Frankly, you could probably find a better quality at an auto upholstery shop. I just wanted to get it done.

Did you actually try it out on the car? Just wondering what sort of alarms might be set off when using the tire.

 

[Nosken]

Auto Carpet in Black Store SKU # 1005557219 Internet # 313938028

$37.07

1

$37.07

Frankly, you could probably find a better quality at an auto upholstery shop. I just wanted to get it done.

Thank you. Wanted it for reference in case someone does this later.

 

[Pianewman]

I inflated the tire with the Tesla pump (took about 6-8 minutes, IIRC) mounted it, both back and front. Perfect fitment. I left it on the right front, drove 10 miles, residential, up to 50mph, lots of harsh concrete, listening for anomalies. Zero noticeable issues.

The car drove and felt totally normal. I even have photos showing that the stance of the car looked totally normal. The inflated tire is very close to full-size OEM. The tread width is about 7", vs. the Modern Spare.

As with any mod, YMMV! If you choose to go to the trouble of LOCATING one of these wheels/tires off a wrecked Maserati Levante, that's your choice. All of the risk is on you. (Jeez, I guess I've hung out with enough lawyers, and "Karen"s that I felt the need to say this!!!)

There are TWO different Vredestein SpaceMaster sizes for Maserati. AFAIK, the Ghibli spare does NOT fit (different lug bolt dimensions). As for part numbers, I'm not going to post them here, as there was some confusion between what the Maserati dealer told me vs. what Parts_Link told me, so it's up to y'all to find the right wheel/tire. The wheel/tire I purchased fits, that's all I can confirm.

Another thing: I haven't weighed the Vredestein SpaceMaster, but it's VERY heavy, much heavier than the Modern Spare. Not a criticism of either, just an observation.