1st edition base model 40k euros
1st edition mid model 45k euros
1st edition top model 50k euros
So much for 'a car for the masses'!!!!!!!
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VW ID.3 Prices released for Ireland, SHOCKING!!!!!
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1st edition base model 40k euros
1st edition mid model 45k euros
1st edition top model 50k euros
So much for 'a car for the masses'!!!!!!!
Jason71
Well-Known Member
I have not been following it? How much did we think it was going to be. Was it likely they could significantly undercut the M3 and make a profit with what is on paper a similarly spec'd car?
I think I was expecting the top spec 1st to be around the 35k - 38k mark, bottom spec 1st around the 28k - 30k, mid spec somewhere in the middle of those two figures.
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
Makes me really glad I chose to cancel my ID.3 reservation and get a M3. I think that most were expecting the top to mid-range 1st Ed model to be around £35k and some were suggesting that the base model might be as low as around £25k.
According to VW CEO Herbert Diess, speaking to German broadcaster ZDF in 2018: "We will come in 2020 with vehicles that can do anything like Tesla and are cheaper by half.”
Jason71
Well-Known Member
They are ramping up production slowly and there is pent up demand. You arn't a very good capitalist if you don't milk that.
Also this is a normal car company if you don't have high list prices how are you going to finance the big list price discounts, the zero % finance and the free 3 years servicing that that people expect?
Also this is a normal car company if you don't have high list prices how are you going to finance the big list price discounts, the zero % finance and the free 3 years servicing that that people expect?
Jason71
Well-Known Member
except charge from a supercharger of course
I was looking forward to the VW range however disapointed based on that. I like the exterior however the interior isn't up to scratch when costs are taken into account.
Also, first post on here
. Hello from Edinburgh, expecting a 3LR in blue late Jan / Early Feb 20.
Also, first post on here
. Hello from Edinburgh, expecting a 3LR in blue late Jan / Early Feb 20.
pdk42
Active Member
Was thinking that Mrs pdk42 might get one of these to replace her aging Golf. Not at these prices (which will probably translate 1:1 to £). Her existing car was £18k new in 2010. Inflating by a factor of 2.5x after 9 years just to go electric makes no sense.
Smiddy
Member
I think it looks alright and I wish the M3 had a heads up display like the ID.3 but I wouldnt pay that sort of money for it, especially with no supercharger network to use.
I wonder what the options list will look like.
I wonder what the options list will look like.
@pdk42 Hopefully it reassures your just how good value relatively the Model 3 is.
People waiting round for the next best cheaper EVs are going to be waiting a long time!
People waiting round for the next best cheaper EVs are going to be waiting a long time!
pdk42
Active Member
So it seems. I wonder how much the BMW i4 will be? £70k?, £80k? Maybe BEVs really aren't the future. If the manufacturers can't get them to prices the average Joe can afford then it's all a bit of a waste of time.
WannabeOwner
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As long as they can sell all they can make then no need to drop the price. Better the makers recoup their significant tooling-up costs so they can continue some further development and scaling-up to get efficiency up and price down - more range for less
For anyone doing a high mileage its already a no brainer. I'm saving £4000 a year on fuel ... For anyone doing 20K miles p.a. sticking that £200 a month fuel saving on the Finance will make the maths work
*Adam
Member
Which is exactly how I sold it to the wife.
Hey he did. It is half price of the Model X - the one that they were talking about.
Wow... you must be doing some serious miles and driving a gas guzzler before to see this kind of saving.
Tesla quote £1900 fuel saving a year based on 12.5K miles. I think that’s on the higher end of what a typical person will save.
WannabeOwner
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Nope, had a relatively frugal LyingCheating VW <spit> BlueMotion car before. It probably did 50 MPG across all journeys.
Diesel say £1.30 per litre = £5.90 per gallon - 30 MPG = 20p / mile and 50 MPG = 12p per mile.
Octopus Go = 5p per kWh unit (Overnight Off Peak). On Model 3 that is typically 3 - 4 miles per kWh so 1.6 - 1.25p per mile. Let's call it 2p as realistically some wastage, and not all charging at home / during Off peak
That's a saving of between 20p - 1.25p = 18.75p per mile (best case) and 12p - 2p = 10p per mile (conservative case)
In my case I do about 30,000 miles a year. £4,000 saved p.a. / 30,000 miles = 13p per mile that I need to save. In my case, I have free Supercharging (10% of my miles) and some self-generated power from PV which works out to around £4,000 overall
Probably reasonable to figure on, best case, around 10p per mile saving unless driving a very fuel efficient ICE ... or a lousy MPG one
I reckon a reasonably conservative rule-of-thumb is that the saving is £100 per month for each 10,000 miles p.a. driven
I recommend anyone to try this website as a calculator
Click on "I already know the distance" and you can use it to calculate your yearly spend.
Journey Price Calculator - Calculate the petrol price for your trip
Here is my old BMW (27 MPG) for 15000 miles - which I do a year with my 45 mile commute + social:
Total petrol cost: £3194.89
Link to this result: Journey Price Calculator - Calculate the petrol price for your trip
+ Oil changes/Service (£500 average/year)
+ Brakes (£1000/2 years)
+ Oil leak (£1030.29 one off)
+ Crankshaft pulley (£696.62 one off + a ruined weekend break)
+ DPD purge system (£1391.88 one off)
+ Fuel leak (£308.4 one off)
I owned the car for 6 years, paid £18,000 in fuel and £13,360.20 on service and driven it for about 94,000 miles.
Click on "I already know the distance" and you can use it to calculate your yearly spend.
Journey Price Calculator - Calculate the petrol price for your trip
Here is my old BMW (27 MPG) for 15000 miles - which I do a year with my 45 mile commute + social:
Total petrol cost: £3194.89
Link to this result: Journey Price Calculator - Calculate the petrol price for your trip
+ Oil changes/Service (£500 average/year)
+ Brakes (£1000/2 years)
+ Oil leak (£1030.29 one off)
+ Crankshaft pulley (£696.62 one off + a ruined weekend break)
+ DPD purge system (£1391.88 one off)
+ Fuel leak (£308.4 one off)
I owned the car for 6 years, paid £18,000 in fuel and £13,360.20 on service and driven it for about 94,000 miles.
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