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MDK

Aussie Member
Aug 1, 2013
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Western Down Under
The RAC has offered to fund several EV fast charging stations in the South West and has been in successful contact with local councils.

The REV Project has been planning this for a while, but the RAC involvement is a big deal

The below article appeared in Saturday's The West Australian (dead tree edition)

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Of course an 85kWh Model S can make it from Perth to Augusta (just over 300km) without charging, but would need to charge before heading back.
It will be nice to have options to stop along the way for a quick top up - considering Tesla has no immediate plans for a service centre let alone a supercharger in WA - and this will help with local adoption of EVs in general

Now how's that CHAdeMO Adapter coming along?
 

meloccom

Moderator Aus/NZ
Feb 11, 2008
2,346
1,244
Sydney Australia
Quote: "Henry Ford's Model T - - - had a 10 Gallon (38 Litre) engine".
I think she means fuel tank.
More proof, if any was needed, that the reduced number of Sub Editors is killing the News paper business.
 

ElectricAutos

Member
Oct 14, 2014
25
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Perth
The DC charging stations will have two cables, CHAdeMO and Combo 2. The Leaf and I-MieV are CHAdeMO while the BMW i3 is Combo 2. There is a question mark over whether the CHAdeMO standard will be deprecated.

Tesla S cars optioned with supercharge can access the CHAdeMO DC charging stations via a Tesla supplied CHAdeMO accessory.

There is an option to add a third Type 2 AC cable to the DC charging stations which can provide AC current up to 43 kW.

Would Tesla S drivers like to see an AC option on the DC charging stations?
 

MDK

Aussie Member
Aug 1, 2013
421
156
Western Down Under
CHAdeMO adaptor from tesla is a $1000+ accessory!!
It has dropped to $450 in the last few days, at least for the North American version - but of course isn't available for order yet, except for the ones bundled with the cars in Japan

Welcome to the forum, ElectricAutos.
Model S can charge on AC at up to 20kW provided the vehicle is equipped with dual chargers (which 70% of forum orders have) or 10kW on the single charger.
Not as nice as fast charging but still very useful, especially with the Electric Highway plan of ~100km between chargers.
 

dsm363

Roadster + Sig Model S
May 17, 2009
18,279
153
Nevada
The HPWC is down to $750. Might be a great option to install along with a 32A J1772. That way 2 charging stations for price of one CS-90 maybe.
 

WhiteStar

Member
Sep 28, 2014
534
117
Sydney, AU
Am I right in thinking someone here is instrumental in this? Regardless, I applaud the *really* bright sparks behind this...you are champions of the cause and I hope it catches on here in the east.

One question, how do I get a Tesla to WA? By truck I guess :frown:
 

Gabz

Member
Jul 28, 2014
232
3
Newcastle NSW
The DC charging stations will have two cables, CHAdeMO and Combo 2. The Leaf and I-MieV are CHAdeMO while the BMW i3 is Combo 2. There is a question mark over whether the CHAdeMO standard will be deprecated.

Tesla S cars optioned with supercharge can access the CHAdeMO DC charging stations via a Tesla supplied CHAdeMO accessory.

There is an option to add a third Type 2 AC cable to the DC charging stations which can provide AC current up to 43 kW.

BMW i3 has been confirmed as combo 1 not combo 2 for Australia. that is what's on the website. CHAdeMO isn't going anywhere it's already too ingrained into japan...
 

ElectricAutos

Member
Oct 14, 2014
25
0
Perth
BMW i3 has been confirmed as combo 1 not combo 2 for Australia. that is what's on the website. CHAdeMO isn't going anywhere it's already too ingrained into japan...

Yes. You are correct. There was a typo in the original post. There is no "official" Australian standard but all the existing production cars imported into Australia are J1772 so there is a presumption that the next generation of electric cars will have a single Combo 1 (J1772(TYpe 1) + DC Fast Charge) socket.

Unfortunately J1772 does not support three phase power so the Type 2 (Mennekes) standard would in fact be more appropriate for Australian conditions enabling higher currents at lower amps e.g. 22 kW AC on a three phase 32 amp circuit v 7.2 kW AC on a single phase 32 amp circuit.

Of course there is no advantage unless the cars have on-board AC chargers capable of drawing 22 kW. Only the Tesla has this capability if optioned with twin chargers. The BMW i3 has a 7.2 kW (32 amp) on-board charger while the Leaf and the Volt have 3.2 kW (16 amp) on-board chargers.

The local power utility may balk at the concept of Tesla owners installing a 22 kW device in domestic dwellings.

Has anyone here asked their sparky to install a three phase 32 amp charging station in their home?

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Am I right in thinking someone here is instrumental in this? Regardless, I applaud the *really* bright sparks behind this...you are champions of the cause and I hope it catches on here in the east.

One question, how do I get a Tesla to WA? By truck I guess :frown:

Thanks for your support. WA of course stands for Way Ahead of the rest. :biggrin:
 

Dborn

Confirmed
Aug 26, 2011
2,715
357
Sydney, Australia
Yes. You are correct. There was a typo in the original post. There is no "official" Australian standard but all the existing production cars imported into Australia are J1772 so there is a presumption that the next generation of electric cars will have a single Combo 1 (J1772(TYpe 1) + DC Fast Charge) socket.

Unfortunately J1772 does not support three phase power so the Type 2 (Mennekes) standard would in fact be more appropriate for Australian conditions enabling higher currents at lower amps e.g. 22 kW AC on a three phase 32 amp circuit v 7.2 kW AC on a single phase 32 amp circuit.

Of course there is no advantage unless the cars have on-board AC chargers capable of drawing 22 kW. Only the Tesla has this capability if optioned with twin chargers. The BMW i3 has a 7.2 kW (32 amp) on-board charger while the Leaf and the Volt have 3.2 kW (16 amp) on-board chargers.

The local power utility may balk at the concept of Tesla owners installing a 22 kW device in domestic dwellings.

Has anyone here asked their sparky to install a three phase 32 amp charging station in their home?

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Thanks for your support. WA of course stands for Way Ahead of the rest. :biggrin:
Yep.I have 32amp 3 phase cable to a single phase wall connector. All that is required when the 3 phase connector arrives, and i assume it will have the same form factor as the single phase, will be to remove the guts and leave the wall plate, and simply make the internal connections - 5 wires instead of 3. At present the extra 2 phases simply have a terminating insulating connector on them within the cabinet of the connector. All up, a 10 minute job!!
 

Gabz

Member
Jul 28, 2014
232
3
Newcastle NSW
Unfortunately J1772 does not support three phase power so the Type 2 (Mennekes) standard would in fact be more appropriate for Australian conditions enabling higher currents at lower amps e.g. 22 kW AC on a three phase 32 amp circuit v 7.2 kW AC on a single phase 32 amp circuit.

you mean higher voltage and lower amps (current) ... I'm not saying i agree with BMW decision to make their cars in australia J1772 plugs and combo 1 CCS worst decision ever we should get the euro standard like tesla have given us...... i was just correcting your post.
 

dhuDz

Member
Jul 24, 2014
138
0
Melbourne, Australia
I have a house in the Southern Highlands NSW which already has a Clipsal 56SO532 three phase 32 Amp socket. Just waiting on Tesla to make a 3 phase wall connector and it will go straight in.

mate, if you don't mind.... how much did it cost you to install? With a sparky or was it a DIY (I assume your licensed if that's the case)?
 

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