groovidad
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So you felt it necessary to add a bit of gasoline, as well, with your own negativity(?) Yeah.....good job.
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Walkaway lock at home ... I don’t want it
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Stellavator
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i'd rather they make the phone key work with all phones first before they start trying to prevent it from working in certain situations...
Ummmm, no, NOT shocked that it doesn't unlock without my phone, and never said so. So sad that there are people on this website who do not read carefully, or offer constructive solutions to legitimate issues that others may have, but instead choose to bash and insult. No idea what the motivation for such defensive vitriol is, but what a poor use of a good resource!
My hope is that Tesla will eventually include the ability to exclude specific locations from walkaway lock as they've done with the Sentry Mode in a recent update. My posting on this forum was in the hopes that enough people would appreciate such a feature added that it might spur the engineers to do so. When they do, I will turn that function back on. For now, I'm locking my car manually on an as needed basis (about 50% of the time in my case).
Gtoovidad, Thanks for asking! I am somewhat disappointed, yes, but would probably make the same decision. I did loads of research as I've been driving EVs exclusively for more than 5 years (this is my 4th vehicle) and have a lot of experience with them. I love the way it drives, the safe feeling of the road handling and the perfect comfort of the seat. So I bought it despite the fact that it uses the phone as the fob, among other things that gave me pause (i.e., a central screen as dashboard anticipating driverless technology, which I have found to be dangerous during the rain at night, since the auto wiper function doesn't work well).
Until the flexibility that I'm hoping for is offered (because mightn't this be something we CAN change?), I mostly leave my car unlocked now. No more frustration in my driveway going back for my things I couldn't carry in on the first trip (because most women have their phones in their purses not on their bodies). I've also disabled the folding mirrors upon lock function, since I rarely park in spots that tight and want to preserve the life of the motors by not taxing them unnecessarily.
I don't have a garage, but thanks for the suggestion anyway! I've disabled the function until it's more flexible and am locking my car manually when needed.
groovidad
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Considering the functionality we currently have, I can certainly see this issue as very doable. I'm not a programmer yet, can't see this function being so labor intensive, in writing the code, to enable the function(?) I'm glad you're enjoying your 3! Best Regards!
It solves the issue of my car locking automatically, but not the need to be having to use my phone all the time. My thinking when I purchased the vehicle was that if the phone thing became too cumbersome, I'd get the fob. But I didn't realize that the fob was old school and that you have to actively manipulate every time you want to lock/unlock your car. This is different, btw, from how the Model S & X fobs work.
While I'm walking away from my car, I fish my phone out of my purse, open the app on my phone and tap the lock icon. It usually takes more like 5 seconds for the app to engage.
Remembering to grab a card would be the same to me as remembering to grab my phone when I return to my car to unload more things. I've just disabled the function altogether for now.
Stellavator, thank you SO much for your analogy. You defined what I simply could not understand when I read some of the responses I got! For some reason, I stopped getting notified of posts to this thread (perhaps a blessing?), but when I saw the new Sentry Mode update allowing location exclusions, I wanted to post an update of hope that this may some day come to pass for walk away lock as well and saw questions, suggestions and some nastiness. So I'm catching up, but I really appreciate your pithiness.
It turns out you're right! My son is a cyber security specialist and does a lot of programming. He said writing a code to exclude certain locations from the walk away lock function (as they did for Sentry Mode recently) is a couple minutes work tops and über easy. Maybe Tesla should hire him?
We are 2m into our Model X ownership and agree this feature would be extremely useful. I have tried the “home” profile workaround and it is not satisfactory. Like the other TMC member, I also don’t want to explore the lifespan of the side mirror motors. It baffles me that such a customization has not been forthcoming, given the simplicity of the request. Elon and Tesla Engineers, please consider!
I also do not like the key options on the M3.
All of my cars with key fobs have the fobs hanging on hooks just inside the back door. When walking out the door, there's all the keys. If I forget to grab them when I walk out, all I have to do is reach in the back door.
More than once, I've gone out to get something from the M3 only to remember, when I have my shoes on and I'm out the door, that my phone and wallet are on the nightstand in the upstairs bedroom. Back inside, shoes off, trudge upstairs, retrieve phone, back downstairs, shoes on, back outside.
Just give me something I can put a door key on and hang with the rest of my fobs. It is annoying that a $40k car doesn't come with a fob.
All of my cars with key fobs have the fobs hanging on hooks just inside the back door. When walking out the door, there's all the keys. If I forget to grab them when I walk out, all I have to do is reach in the back door.
More than once, I've gone out to get something from the M3 only to remember, when I have my shoes on and I'm out the door, that my phone and wallet are on the nightstand in the upstairs bedroom. Back inside, shoes off, trudge upstairs, retrieve phone, back downstairs, shoes on, back outside.
Just give me something I can put a door key on and hang with the rest of my fobs. It is annoying that a $40k car doesn't come with a fob.
how about hanging the card key by the back door?
not suggesting your wishes are not a good idea, just as a workaround until something changes
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I'm wondering about security here, and perhaps your son should too given his profession. Having the phone try to be smart about lock/unlock based on location is simple on the surface, but some of the edge cases worry me. Example: what should the car do if it can't get a GPS fix? I would imagine it should assume the worst and lock, which seems sensible. Ok, fine. You get used to the feature NOT locking your car at home. Then one day the weather or some such anomaly messes up GPS for a few minutes, and the care decides its not sure where it is even though it is safe at home and locks. With your phone in it. Oops.
Contrived perhaps, but the more complex you make locking options, the more ways there are for them to do the wrong thing. That's why the best security systems are always the simplest; complexity, especially complexity for the sake of convenience, is the enemy of security,
That would require drilling a hold in the key card. The salesperson on delivery told me that would be a bad idea. Or putting it on a lanyard, which is bulkier than I'd like. So the card lives in my wallet. Which is a good thing given that my phone died on me while I was 30 miles away from home just last Saturday. I had a mild panic attack until I confirmed that the key card was indeed in my wallet, and it would indeed work.
The second card lives with the wife. So really not a great option given that every other $30k car on the planet these days has figured out how to implement keyless entry with a convenient fob. Sometimes a design that just works doesn't need to be messed with.
And yes, yes, I know about this: This Hacker's Tiny Device Unlocks Cars And Opens Garages
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