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Walt Disney World

enzo

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Sep 4, 2016
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Starting a new thread as the other one is in the Canada forum.

Having just returned from resort-hopping at WDW, a few remarks. I'll preface by saying it's been a difficult year for the parks, et cetera. However, the place is booming again and charging infrastructure remains a severe blind spot for Disney. Most resorts still lack charging stations. Of those with Chargepoint stations, they are occupied most of the time, and it's a common sight to see a few EVs in the nearby parking spaces "waiting in line". Lack of idle fees/rules compounds the problem. They are also poorly maintained, with Disney Springs Orange garage having 2/3 stations offline (PlugShare reveals it's been awhile). Not all stations are in the Chargepoint app.

There are superchargers nearby, but for those with young kids and tight schedules, it is a very undesirable option.

Several of the non-Disney resorts on site have Tesla destination chargers. In light of this, along with the recent explosion of 3/Ys and overall predominance of Tesla vehicles at Disney (which anyone could have predicted), it can only be seen as an active choice by Disney to avoid placing destination chargers. One assumes it is to avoid giving free power to Tesla owners; however, now that Tesla has enabled billing for destination chargers, it should be easy to keep things "fair".

At my resort, there were three Teslas parked in a row for several days. One suggested this was a "statistical anomaly" - perhaps to some degree, but I think it is more a harbinger. One even tried to plug in to the 120v outlet I was already using and, no surprise, tripped the breaker (not a good look when Tesla owners can't count their amps).

The queue for Test Track (ride sponsored by General Motors and refurbished 2012) has a video of kids describing their ideal futuristic vehicle: "it should have Autopilot, it should run off batteries..." - the ride is practically an advertisement for Tesla and makes GM look foolish. Likewise, Disney's overall theme of hopeful futurism is no doubt going to start looking stale unless they start to better anticipate the transition from ICE.
 

Les236

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I thought it was great a few years ago when the Chargepoint chargers went in at Epcot and Disney Springs, and use them when I can, however with such a low number of them you have to get there early. I like going to Universal where they have a couple 15kw Tesla destination chargers, and they don't cost me anything, so I usually leave with a full charge. With all the solar Disney has put in over the past few years, they should be increasing the EV chargers at all of their hotels and parks, and they should be free. Limit them to 4kw each if you want, but there should be at least 20 at each location.
 

mociaf9

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The issue isn't that they need Tesla-specific chargers, it's that they just need a whole heck of a lot more chargers or charging access period. Either Tesla destination chargers or Chargepoint or just simple outlets in parking lots for people to plug into. The whole idea of the WDW resort is that you go stay there and don't need to leave for anything, so reliable access to just a simple NEMA 5-15 outlet would cover a huge percentage of the usage case for a lot of guests.
 
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roblab

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The issue is that there is plenty of charging around. You don't need to charge while at the park. Just charge a day earlier on the way to WDW, then stop at the Disney motel -- or any other motel . Since you're not going anywhere, you don't need to charge. Thinking you need to charge while your car is inactive is silly. Your car isn't going anywhere, so, enjoy the park, come back late, drive back to the motel (it's only 5 miles away, you know) and get some sleep. Total miles, just under 20. Even if you go out, you still have plenty of charge. I mean, with 300 miles of range, or 400, or 200, you won't run out of charge, and if you get low, there are plenty of chargers. I see two SCs in Orlando and seven more in the greater Orlando area.
 

enzo

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The issue is that there is plenty of charging around. You don't need to charge while at the park. Just charge a day earlier on the way to WDW, then stop at the Disney motel -- or any other motel . Since you're not going anywhere, you don't need to charge. Thinking you need to charge while your car is inactive is silly. Your car isn't going anywhere, so, enjoy the park, come back late, drive back to the motel (it's only 5 miles away, you know) and get some sleep. Total miles, just under 20. Even if you go out, you still have plenty of charge. I mean, with 300 miles of range, or 400, or 200, you won't run out of charge, and if you get low, there are plenty of chargers. I see two SCs in Orlando and seven more in the greater Orlando area.
You are inappropriately generalizing your personal use case, which is a minimalistic version of a Disney trip. Not every day is spent at a park; not every car is 'inactive', not every car starts with a full charge, and it is not always easy to leave and supercharge when getting low. My own recent experience in a Y LR illustrates. After a 6 hour drive with multiple baby-related stops and one supercharge, we arrived with 22% and were not in a position to charge on arrival. We had a long and active vacation planned in advance down to the hour, putting on 64 miles just at Disney, of course with heavy air conditioning use, charging whenever we could. Charge level fluctuated in the range 8-30% even with one brief supercharge attempt (+6% net gain was the best we could do). This unfortunately precluded the use of sentry mode for most of the trip.

I don't think mine was an unusual case. They are already behind the curve, and Disney will need to add hundreds of chargers over the next 5 years if they plan to barely keep up.
 

mwoz

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On Friday I drove To Disney and arrived at animal kingdom with less than 10%. The ChargePoint app said a space was available but a Tesla was in the spot just not charging. I would have paid the outrageous price for the convenience of charging at Disney and to encourage them to offer more charging options. I think every hotel should have 4-10 and the theme parks at least 20. I get free supercharging but charging while parked is so convenient. Over the weekend I charged at the Wawa twice. I think Disney is missing a good opportunity. Whenever they ask about my stay I comment on needing more charging options.
 
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JimBob 909

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Sep 16, 2019
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Disney gives nothing away for free. I agree they could have destination chargers that charge a fee. I was just there and rented an ICE, but I looked and only saw superchargers on HWY192 at WaWa and in Celebration. We stayed at Old key West and that resort is so large that they need several destination charge points.
Orange Lake Resort (it's hugh) on Hwy 192 needs to step up their game and install destination chargers even with WaWa being close by. Since there were far fewer Tesla's than here in Cali, I think that's one reason so few chargers. Most car rentals are ICE.

I do not want to charge at a theme park, it's MILES from where you are in the park to your car to move it when it's charged (or pay idle fees on top of the $25.00 to park).
 

BrownMS

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Apr 22, 2019
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On Friday I drove To Disney and arrived at animal kingdom with less than 10%. The ChargePoint app said a space was available but a Tesla was in the spot just not charging. I would have paid the outrageous price for the convenience of charging at Disney and to encourage them to offer more charging options. I think every hotel should have 4-10 and the theme parks at least 20. I get free supercharging but charging while parked is so convenient. Over the weekend I charged at the Wawa twice. I think Disney is missing a good opportunity. Whenever they ask about my stay I comment on needing more charging options.
I’ve had that happen once there and just parked on back side and plugged in. Blows my mind when I see that
 

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