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+1 on the Lowe's NEMA 14-50 installed in all garages with outside receptable for the kid's e-Golf and the sporadic Plugshare desperado.
While at it I also realized that my trusty 10kW gasoline generator will not cope, so I am getting a 22kW natural gas powered Generac with whole house switch installed, at least I will be running one AC unit and a Tesla off it.
Now I am patiently waiting for the year 2020 to cross shop for 300mi 40k BEV sedans, LMFAO
While at it I also realized that my trusty 10kW gasoline generator will not cope, so I am getting a 22kW natural gas powered Generac with whole house switch installed, at least I will be running one AC unit and a Tesla off it.
Now I am patiently waiting for the year 2020 to cross shop for 300mi 40k BEV sedans, LMFAO
There's no evidence that charging at 80amps has done anything negative to Model S batteries. Tesla pampers it's battery packs with liquid cooling and, so far, they've proven extremely resilient.
Furthermore, 80A @ 240V charging is nothing compared to Superchargers at over 300A and 350-400V. My car has gone over 30,000 miles, about 2/3 of that on very long trips using Superchargers. My battery degradation is hardly noticeable. The 100% charge range appears to be 3.4% lower now, after two years and, as I say, over 30,000 miles.
That's very true! Just another testament to the durability of the Tesla battery pack!
22kW whole house automatic natural gas generator is what I have on my small (2000 sq ft) house. My Generac installers not only did not recommend charging my Tesla with it, they said if I did, I could void my warranty.
That said, I plan to discuss this with my electrician so that, if the time came that I desperately needed the charge to get away from a hurricane, I could be able to turn off all but the kitchen circuits and charge up.
There is a extra 5kW plug on the side for sharing with a neighbor. Perhaps there is a way I utilize it in a pinch.
Let me know what you do as I'm having the 22kw installed as we speak. You could always plug it into the 110?
Doubt it unless they did not follow the 100A circuit required. The worst that will happen is fuse will kick in and stop everything, you then turn off AC unit and charge Tesla.
Tesla with NEMA 14-50 draws 240vx40A= 9,600W, add another 9000W for AC, you will have plenty to go around.
Even with the 10k gas generator without a Tesla, we experimented until we could run it at capacity, and boy did it run a 4500sq ft home minus one AC unit (switched to upstairs at night), freezers and everything included.
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(A) You have to do a load calculation. If you have a small house with gas appliances, you shouldn't have an issue. If you have a large house with all electric appliances (and especially heat), then you're likely to run into issues.
(B) The car will attempt to charge at 72A if you provide it with a supply capable of doing so. It will not automatically figure out what current it can draw based on current loads at the house (although Tesla does some minimal detection of high resistance and will back off charging to 75%).
(C) In the FAQ (see my signature below), I recommend a small 125A subpanel.
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It is definitively confirmed that the Model X has a single charger capable of charging at up to 72A - from the charging team at Tesla.
aija SigX 649
Winged Lion
CmdrThor
Active Member
It is worth noting that the statement regarding the 18 kW charger for Model X has been removed from the home charging installation page on Tesla's website.
vangogh
Member
I originally got that message too...but when I tried to confirm before installing my power, the Tesla charging program manager sent me this reply....
Thank you for reaching out. I apologize, our engineering has recently clarified their plans for Model X charging capability, the 72 amp on-board charger is no longer accurate. I am now being told that the on-board charger capability of Model X will be max 48 amps. When connected to a NEMA 14-50, Model X will use its on-board charger to charge at approximately 25 miles/hour. Higher amperage Wall Connectors (such as those found at our Destination Charging locations) will provide a recharge speed of approximately 30 miles per hour.
Walter Fxxxxx | Charging Installation Program Manager
45500 Fremont Boulevard | Fremont, CA 94538
Thank you for reaching out. I apologize, our engineering has recently clarified their plans for Model X charging capability, the 72 amp on-board charger is no longer accurate. I am now being told that the on-board charger capability of Model X will be max 48 amps. When connected to a NEMA 14-50, Model X will use its on-board charger to charge at approximately 25 miles/hour. Higher amperage Wall Connectors (such as those found at our Destination Charging locations) will provide a recharge speed of approximately 30 miles per hour.
Walter Fxxxxx | Charging Installation Program Manager
45500 Fremont Boulevard | Fremont, CA 94538
With that said, there's no harm if you can afford to install it for a 100A circuit anyway, for future vehicles (or upgrades to your existing vehicle). I'm putting my second WC in at 100A.
CmdrThor
Active Member
No one knows for sure, but if the charging is like Model S and Model X (probably will be) all you will need is the J1772 adapter that will come with the car. If you want to leave your adapter attached to your Wattstation but still have one in your car for connecting to public J1772 stations, you could buy an extra adapter currently priced at $95. Or just bring it with you whenever you might need it out on the road.
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
An electrician friend dropped off 40 feet of 1 O cable today, a 100 amp breaker and some other tidbits. I am going to get a disconnect box as well as another box for a 14-50 plug. This way I can install the HPWC at 48" and put the 14-50 below as a second option and something I can use while I wait for the HPWC supply to renew.
