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Yeah, actually Tesla seems to have sent out a press release that at least Electrek quoted. The Tesla press release says:
Cabin Overheat Protection
In an industry-first safety measure, we’re also introducing Cabin Overheat Protect, focused on child (and pet) safety. This feature keeps the car at a safe temperature for hours, even when the car is off. This feature is only made possible by an electric vehicle with Tesla’s uniquely large battery packs.
Good God. So Tesla is the source of the information that says 105 degrees is a safe temperature for pets and infants for hours. That turns off when the car hits 20% battery pack.
Electrek article: Tesla v8.0 software update is being pushed right now, all the details and full release notes
Does anyone else think this is a good idea?
Millions of people live in the Central Valley of California where afternoon temperatures routinely run 105ºF or more in summer shade. I must have missed the news stories about generations of dogs and kids in The Valley routinely dying every summer.
It's a safety feature to prevent a tragedy, not a comfort feature for routine use.
Tesla's PR implies that the Cabin Overheat feature allows you to leave pets and children in the car. 105 degrees (and by the way, AC is likely not on, only the fan assuming it isn't really hot outside too) is possibly dangerous (think fur coats and swaddled infants) and at the very least, a cruel temperature to leave pets and children in.
People pointing out that adults can withstand that temperature are completely missing the point.
Tesla's PR implies that the Cabin Overheat feature allows you to leave pets and children in the car. 105 degrees (and by the way, AC is likely not on, only the fan assuming it isn't really hot outside too) is possibly dangerous (think fur coats and swaddled infants) and at the very least, a cruel temperature to leave pets and children in.
People pointing out that adults can withstand that temperature are completely missing the point.
No, it isn't a given. People do it all the time. Here's a baby that was recently rescued from such a car:
Retired Officer Uses Sledgehammer To Rescue Baby From Hot Car
Tesla's press release is irresponsible.
So you guys that are defending Tesla think there is no need for better clarification from Tesla? Are any of you lawyers?
I think it's just a given that you never intentionally leave a child or pet in a hot car.
No, it isn't a given. People do it all the time. Here's a baby that was recently rescued from such a car:
105ºF is right at the borderline for some people to handle it fine and others not. I assume animals are the same. Variables have to do mostly with recent acclimation, health (how well your body's temperature conditioning works, probably cardio-vascular related; also, people with more "insulation built in" (heavier weight) can hold in more heat), activity during that day (such as water, energy input, energy use, time to cool off, etc.), genetics, etc. For many people and animals, 105ºF is a good emergency save-their-life level. For some people and animals, this may be OK during hot season for regular use, but I think that for others, this would not be a good regular use temperature setting.This is not the case, 105 degrees is way too hot for this.
I read that as a safe temperature (as in one where the pet/infant won't die if left at that temperature) not something that you want to leave a child or pet in for hours purposefully (for that I would expect the wording to be "comfortable temperature" not "safe"). Would hope people have more common sense than that. And given it uses AC, it won't be humid, so it's a lot less dangerous.Yeah, actually Tesla seems to have sent out a press release that at least Electrek quoted. The Tesla press release says:
Cabin Overheat Protection
In an industry-first safety measure, we’re also introducing Cabin Overheat Protect, focused on child (and pet) safety. This feature keeps the car at a safe temperature for hours, even when the car is off. This feature is only made possible by an electric vehicle with Tesla’s uniquely large battery packs.
Good God. So Tesla is the source of the information that says 105 degrees is a safe temperature for pets and infants for hours. That turns off when the car hits 20% battery pack.
Electrek article: Tesla v8.0 software update is being pushed right now, all the details and full release notes
Does anyone else think this is a good idea?
No, I'm not. Introducing the feature with a limit of 105F was better than what we had before.I take it you are joking?
What if someone leaves their child or pet in the car because of the feature who otherwise would not have done it?No, I'm not. Introducing the feature with a limit of 105F was better than what we had before.
I read that as a safe temperature (as in one where the pet/infant won't die if left at that temperature) not something that you want to leave a child or pet in for hours purposefully (....