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Yes, we all have to be lawyers. I can't believe you didn't know that.Are the people accusing Tesla on this thread lawyers? Are non-lawyers not allowed to post their opinions on a forum?
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Yes, we all have to be lawyers. I can't believe you didn't know that.Are the people accusing Tesla on this thread lawyers? Are non-lawyers not allowed to post their opinions on a forum?
What if someone leaves their child or pet in the car because of the feature who otherwise would not have done it?
Because I don't normally leave my key fob with a couple bags of groceries. Glad to hear this will be fixed with 8.0How do you know it's a person vs a couple bags of groceries or shopping items?
Because I don't normally leave my key fob with a couple bags of groceries. Glad to hear this will be fixed with 8.0
I don't know how it works in the final version, but according to what Tesla said to the press it uses AC when necessary (in contrast to a similar system in the Prius which is fan-only):It never says it uses AC, it could just blow cooler outside air into the cabin.
It's definitely a borderline (looking online, 105-106 body temperature for a dog is when things start to get fatal), but way different from the previous situation (where even in moderately warm temperatures, you will reach past that much within 10 minutes parked in the sun).For dogs 105F is at the border of being lethal. Dogs shouldn't be exposed to such high temperature.
If we stopped innovating because some people would misuse technology, we'd remain a very primitive species.What if someone leaves their child or pet in the car because of the feature who otherwise would not have done it?
The stupid thing is that each seat has a sensor, which at a minimum should be used to leave climate on.
Currently, if the driver steps out, closes the door and walks away (but leaves the fob in the car, with someone seated in the passenger seat), the climate control still turns itself off.
If someone does that and it results in them murdering their child they should go to jail.What if someone leaves their child or pet in the car because of the feature who otherwise would not have done it?
It seems a bad interpretation or communication. I read as a safety feature, IN CASE someone Accidentally left a pet on child in the car. This is NOT a convenience feature to allow you to leave any pets or children in the car. 105 is still Hot, but car interior can exceed that threshold, without the fans coming on, thus limiting the potential in case someone left a pet of toddler behind. DON'T LEAVE PETS or Children in Cars and then say its Tesla's Fault.
From a vet: http://www.gopetplan.com/uploads/media/17/10893.pdfov
And another (less easy to read): http://vet.tufts.edu/wp-content/uploads/tacc.pdf
Looks like the dog scale only goes up to 95F, which is considered dangerous. So I would agree, 105 is too hot.
On the kids side, I found this: https://www.ok.gov/health2/documents/weatherwatchforchildren2.pdf
This is a good first step and will improve with 8.1. I know if immobilized, I would rather be in a car limited to 105 than one with no limit at all. And again, it is obviously a safety feature, not a recommended practice. Tesla is not saying you should leave your pets, or children in a car at 105F, they are saying that if you forget to account for them, your car will try to keep them alive. Think seat belts, airbags, crumple zones, max temp control. Tesla, I thank you, and our dog will thank you if I ever forgot to take the appropriate steps.
I agree it's a great safety feature. I think the heartburn in this thread is the wording of the press release.
Cabin Overheat Protection
In an industry-first safety measure, we’re also introducing Cabin Overheat Protect, focused on child (and pet) safety. This feature keeps the car at a safe temperature for hours, even when the car is off. This feature is only made possible by an electric vehicle with Tesla’s uniquely large battery packs.
The press release doesn't say it's a last resort safety feature. B
It says it will keep the car at a safe temperature for hours. If all you read was that, you might come away with the impression you could regularly leave Fido in the car when you are out running errands.
i love this new feature and await for more to come!
i have an 8mo daughter and have never ONCE forgot she was back there. i have no clue how people do that unless they are high or drunk.
i've been a cop now for 4 years and have had to respond to 2 of these calls and it just makes me sick