Warranty beyond 100,000 Miles?

[retinadoc]

Hey Tesla, for those of us who drank the kool-aid early on and have driven the hell out of our classic Model S', how about an option to purchase another extended warranty? It would be a nice gesture for those of us who went through your learning curve and supported the company when its survival was even questionable.

AWD and AP look great, but I am really happy with my car (VIN sub 5000) and would just like some peace of mind for the next 50,000-100,000 Miles. By now you likely have data on what parts are likely to fail by 150,000 miles, so this program should even be profitable for the company.

It would also quiet the backlash from Consumer Reports.

 

[jerry33]

I'll second that. I don't foresee trading in my S85

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

Yes, please. I'm a long way from 100k but, do intend to hold onto this car till it falls apart.

$4k more for every additional 50k miles?

 

[bhuwan]

I doubt this would happen but I would love for tesla to change the warranty to years and forget about the mileage.

 

[yobigd20]

$4k more for every additional 50k miles?

no thanks!! it's much cheaper to pay per issue rather than paying $4k every 50k miles. I dont know why anyone buys any ESA (especially Tesla's which is one of the worst in in the industry) it's a total waste of money.

 

[taurusking]

no thanks!! it's much cheaper to pay per issue rather than paying $4k every 50k miles. I dont know why anyone buys any ESA (especially Tesla's which is one of the worst in in the industry) it's a total waste of money.

Are you saying this out of experience...

Did you have to pay a lot for out of warranty repairs?

Just wondering...I am going to be out of warranty in a year from now

 

[yobigd20]

Are you saying this out of experience...

Did you have to pay a lot for out of warranty repairs?

yep. 89k miles and i'm out about $1400 in post-warranty repair (rear upper control links, lug nuts, and TPMS sensors). thats far short of $4k.

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

yep. 89k miles and i'm out about $1400 in post-warranty repair (rear upper control links, lug nuts, and TPMS sensors). thats far short of $4k.

Yobigd, that could just be good fortune, couldn't it? What if something more costly (non-drivetrain, non-battery pack, of course) such as the touchscreen or some other such costly component had broken down?

And, after 8 years, for even non-high-mileage cars (a different situation from yours), the battery pack and the drivetrain would be out of warranty as well. So, an extended warranty may make sense there?!

 

[Max*]

I don't think having a flat rate of $4k for every 50k is reasonable

First 50k warranty - free (ideally after the few minor factory issues are correct, the car will be problem free)
Next 50k warranty - $4k (higher risk of the electronica breaking, higher risk for Tesla, thus higher cost for the owner)
Next 50k warranty - $?k (even higher risk, should be an even higher cost for the owner)

 

[taurusking]

I don't think having a flat rate of $4k for every 50k is reasonable

First 50k warranty - free (ideally after the few minor factory issues are correct, the car will be problem free)
Next 50k warranty - $4k (higher risk of the electronica breaking, higher risk for Tesla, thus higher cost for the owner)
Next 50k warranty - $?k (even higher risk, should be an even higher cost for the owner)

We as owners are requesting Tesla to consider offering second warranty from 100K miles to 150K miles for $4K..

Are you suggesting Tesla make it $6K...more steep cost for MS owners:smile:

 

[omarsultan]

I'll be over 100K by about this time next year. While I bought the ESA, I would also think hard about buying another ESA--the car has been pretty bulletproof.

 

[Max*]

We as owners are requesting Tesla to consider offering second warranty from 100K miles to 150K miles for $4K..

Are you suggesting Tesla make it $6K...more steep cost for MS owners:smile:

That would make financial sense, yes. Higher risk = more cost.

 

[bhuwan]

yep. 89k miles and i'm out about $1400 in post-warranty repair (rear upper control links, lug nuts, and TPMS sensors). thats far short of $4k.

You could be right (and probably are) but I decided to get the extended warranty, and already had to use $1000 to fix my charge port. I was only 1500 miles outside of the original warranty, and it's likely tesla would have done it under good will.

But nonetheless, I wanted the a stress free 50k driving.

 

[wraithnot]

no thanks!! it's much cheaper to pay per issue rather than paying $4k every 50k miles. I dont know why anyone buys any ESA (especially Tesla's which is one of the worst in in the industry) it's a total waste of money.

I had a different experience. I bought the extended warranty in early 2015 and then had a rear door handle completely fail at 52,000 miles (it would still present, but wouldn't open the door no matter how hard you pulled). The other rear door handle was also starting to go and the steering was making a creaking noise when you turned the steering wheel on a hill. I had both rear door handles replaced and the steering fixed and I asked the technician what it would have cost out of warranty. He said parts and labor for two door handles and the steering adjustment would have come to a bit over $4,000 so I'm already ahead.

Now I might be a special case- the two front door handles had already been replaced, but both rear door handles were the original early 2013 vintage. The rear door handles got very little use until we had our first child in early 2015 so that's probably why they lasted as long as they did- and why they both had issues shortly after 50,000 miles. Anyone with an early car that still has at least two original door handles should take that into consideration when deciding about the extended warranty. Tesla loaner cars are also only supposed to be given out when cars under warranty are serviced- I really like getting loaner cars with newer gadgets or more power than my S85 so that was a factor when I decided to get the extended warranty.

 

[calisnow]

no thanks!! it's much cheaper to pay per issue rather than paying $4k every 50k miles. I dont know why anyone buys any ESA (especially Tesla's which is one of the worst in in the industry) it's a total waste of money.

That's an oversimplification of reality yobigd20. I also do not purchase extended warranties on most items - they are a profit center. But on certain marques of buggy cars they can certainly be a decent investment for the consumer. My Mercedes E55 has had about $17,000 in out of warranty repairs over the last 5 years (6,000 for replacing the air shocks - notorious failure points on cars - my Bentley lost its as well - and yes, Teslas have air suspensions) during the period in which it went from about 60,000 miles to 140,000 miles. An extended warranty would certainly have been warranted.

My Bentley GT had the option of a comprehensive warranty renewal - which I forgot to purchase in time - and promptly had several random problems adding up to over $11,000 when the car had only around 50,000 miles on it.

The extended warranty purchased on my BMW 540i paid for itself many times over.

Now I also have an Infiniti QX56 and a Toyota Landcruiser - and they both have over 200,000 miles and never have had any issues justifying an extended warranty purchase.

With how buggy these Tesla Model S's are I would certainly buy an extended warranty at the 100,000 mile mark if one were available.

As it stands I don't think I'll keep my Model S after the warranty is up - it's no Lexus and I don't expect it to last forever. I'm buying for fuel savings, the wonderful way it drives, and the autopilot. I might keep it 8 years but when the drivetrain warranty is over it's definitely gone.

Also I am not getting air suspension after my experience with them failing in a Bentley and Benz.

 

[MrJones390]

Take the $4k and invest it in Tesla stock when it's around $200/share.

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[Johan]

That's an oversimplification of reality yobigd20. I also do not purchase extended warranties on most items - they are a profit center. But on certain marques of buggy cars they can certainly be a decent investment for the consumer. My Mercedes E55 has had about $17,000 in out of warranty repairs over the last 5 years (6,000 for replacing the air shocks - notorious failure points on cars - my Bentley lost its as well - and yes, Teslas have air suspensions) during the period in which it went from about 60,000 miles to 140,000 miles. An extended warranty would certainly have been warranted.

My Bentley GT had the option of a comprehensive warranty renewal - which I forgot to purchase in time - and promptly had several random problems adding up to over $11,000 when the car had only around 50,000 miles on it.

The extended warranty purchased on my BMW 540i paid for itself many times over.

Now I also have an Infiniti QX56 and a Toyota Landcruiser - and they both have over 200,000 miles and never have had any issues justifying an extended warranty purchase.

With how buggy these Tesla Model S's are I would certainly buy an extended warranty at the 100,000 mile mark if one were available.

As it stands I don't think I'll keep my Model S after the warranty is up - it's no Lexus and I don't expect it to last forever. I'm buying for fuel savings, the wonderful way it drives, and the autopilot. I might keep it 8 years but when the drivetrain warranty is over it's definitely gone.

Also I am not getting air suspension after my experience with them failing in a Bentley and Benz.

How many miles do you (and your family?) average per year???

 

[calisnow]

How many miles do you (and your family?) average per year???

I average around 30,000 miles per year of my own driving. My girlfriend probably around 20,000. The Model S will, in my case, actually pay for itself in gas savings compared to the 14 mpg of 91 octane I currently burn.

 

[jerry33]

22+k miles for just the Model S.

 

[zer0cool]

Almost any mass production car after 8 years or 120k miles is worth just a few thousand dollars... why anyone would pay 4k to warranty a car that's worth say 8k is beyond me... To be honest, if I still am driving my Tesla 8 years from now and anything expensive breaks, I will just sell the car to the dealership...

I think 8 years or 120k miles for any luxury car is pretty much a car's full life.