couldn't agree more - 4G seems like it should be there. if this car is gonna be around for a while in your house you would want 4G for when it becomes the standard like 3G has been.
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warranty/maintenance speculation/3G
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couldn't agree more - 4G seems like it should be there. if this car is gonna be around for a while in your house you would want 4G for when it becomes the standard like 3G has been.
The hardware is different so would require more than a software upgrade. I remember a quote from Elon but can't find it now where he told the engineers that the car had to have 4G and they responded "not enough time, no cheap standard modules available yet..." So he told them to at least make it easily upgradable.
Tethering could be an interesting option, depending on how pricing works out. My problem is that AT&T charges per phone that can tether, so we'd need to activate tethering on two phones (or three, if I ever allow my son to drive the MS:scared
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.Tethering seems like such a hassle on a 100K car. I don't like to keep my hotspot open on my phone all the time so I'd have to manually enable hotspot everytime I get in the car. That's not going to happen. Without a plan I'm guessing you also wouldn't be able to use the mobile App to pre cool or access other functions. I don't think they're using SMS like the tattler.
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Since Tesla is using nVidia's Tegra chipset, part of blame goes to nVidia for not speccing LTE as part of the Tegra 3 chipset. Looks like nVidia passed AT&T verficiation testing in May for their Icera LTE chipset. I'm guessing Tesla is not in the business of writing drivers and software support for LTE chipsets, so they may be waiting for nVidia to hurry up. Hopefully this can be included in Model S 2013 and upgradeable in 2012?
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Since Tesla is using nVidia's Tegra chipset, part of blame goes to nVidia for not speccing LTE as part of the Tegra 3 chipset. Looks like nVidia passed AT&T verficiation testing in May for their Icera LTE chipset. I'm guessing Tesla is not in the business of writing drivers and software support for LTE chipsets, so they may be waiting for nVidia to hurry up. Hopefully this can be included in Model S 2013 and upgradeable in 2012?
I mentioned to the engineers almost 3 years ago that the cellular network should be made modular to be upgradable. I informed them that LTE was just around the corner. The engineers said they would consider it. However, I have never been able to find out whether they in fact designed it to be modular.
I find this aspect of the car to be disappointing. At the least, they could have designed it to be 3G with HSDPA (what T-mobile and ATT used to call 4G), but afaik, they did not.
Any new info on the cost of maintennance? This is another area that Tesla needs to improve. Even Toyota offers free service for a period of time after buying a car.
I find this aspect of the car to be disappointing. At the least, they could have designed it to be 3G with HSDPA (what T-mobile and ATT used to call 4G), but afaik, they did not.
Any new info on the cost of maintennance? This is another area that Tesla needs to improve. Even Toyota offers free service for a period of time after buying a car.
On Tesla Motors, Founders Rod and Barbara posted a lengthy review of their Model S, which includes:
The touch screen hardware is capable of 4G, but the current service provided to Signature owners for the first year is only 3G.
Model S Deliveries - latest actual info on dates and vehicles being delivered | Forums | Tesla Motors
So that's good news then, right? If it already has 4G hardware then adding 4G service should only mean a software update and maybe an additional service contract (more money per month) than the standard 3G service.
How would the owner of the vehicle know that fact? I find many people confuse AT&T "4G" with LTE offered by AT&T and Verizon. I appreciate their review of the car, but I put no value on their comment about "4G" until I see evidence of it or even proof they even understand what is LTE 4G.
I moved 3 of the posts talking about maintenance to a new thread. There are a number of good posts in this tread dealing with three issues regarding the 3G vs. 4G connectivity issue so instead of copying half posts and moving them I created a new thread.
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