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Outrage and delight as France ditches reliance on meat in climate bill

The country that gave the world foie gras, coq au vin and le steak frites is being asked to ditch its meat-heavy diet in favour of vegetarian options, as France embarks on a historic “culture shift” that will bring sweeping changes to all aspects of society, the French environment minister has said. Meat will be off the menu at least one day a week in schools, while vegetarian options will be standard in public catering, and chefs will be trained in how to prepare healthy and toothsome plant-based meals.
Barbara Pompili, minister for ecological transition, said the country’s wide-ranging plan to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions would improve health and wellbeing, while providing a big boost to the economy. “Developing a vegetarian menu offer is about freedom as much as ecology,” she said. “Vegetarians must be able to find menus that cater to their needs in their canteens. This is especially true for young people, among whom the proportion of vegetarians is twice as high as the rest of the population.”
 
Hundreds of fishing fleets that go ‘dark’ suspected of illegal hunting, study finds

“It’s very suspicious that they have their AIS turned off for such a large proportion of the time they are out fishing,” said Marla Valentine, an ecologist at Oceana, an international NGO dedicated to ocean conservation. “Billions of dollars worth of marine life are being removed from the ecosystems, such as squid, hake and shrimp, which are fed on by species like tuna. This can have lasting impacts on their reproductive cycle”, said Valentine.“It’s very suspicious that they have their AIS turned off for such a large proportion of the time they are out fishing,” said Marla Valentine, an ecologist at Oceana, an international NGO dedicated to ocean conservation. “Billions of dollars worth of marine life are being removed from the ecosystems, such as squid, hake and shrimp, which are fed on by species like tuna. This can have lasting impacts on their reproductive cycle”, said Valentine.Nearly 66% of the “dark” vessels were Chinese-flagged squid jiggers, vessels with bright lights and hooks designed to catch squid. But Spanish trawlers that tow heavy nets along the sea bed to catch species such Argentine hake and red shrimp went “dark” more than three times as often as Chinese vessels, the report says.
 
World leaders ‘ignoring’ role of destruction of nature in causing pandemics

The root cause of pandemics – the destruction of nature – is being ignored, scientists have warned. The focus of world leaders on responding to future outbreaks overlooks the far cheaper and more effective strategy of stopping the spillover of disease from animals to humans in the first place, they have said. The razing of forests and hunting of wildlife is increasingly bringing animals and the microbes they harbour into contact with people and livestock. About 70% of new infectious diseases have come from animals, including Covid-19, Sars, bird flu, Ebola and HIV.The root cause of pandemics – the destruction of nature – is being ignored, scientists have warned. The focus of world leaders on responding to future outbreaks overlooks the far cheaper and more effective strategy of stopping the spillover of disease from animals to humans in the first place, they have said. The razing of forests and hunting of wildlife is increasingly bringing animals and the microbes they harbour into contact with people and livestock. About 70% of new infectious diseases have come from animals, including Covid-19, Sars, bird flu, Ebola and HIV.Recent research estimated the annual cost of preventing further pandemics over the next decade to be $26bn (£18bn), just 2% of the financial damage caused by Covid-19. The measures would include protecting forests, shutting down risky trade in wildlife, better protecting farm animals from infection and rapid disease detection in wildlife markets.
 
The pig whisperer: the Dutch farmer who wants to end factory farming
“Factory farming of pigs in the Netherlands is a dead end,” he says. “We now know that a pig is not a thing: it is a sentient being with a high level of intelligence, comparable with the intelligence of a child. What I see worldwide is that many pig farmers don’t know any more what pigs are about. They just don’t have the skills to know what’s right and what’s wrong.” What’s wrong, he believes, is factory farming where cannibalistic “vices” such as tail biting replace normal pig behaviour such as rooting around for food. This leads to widespread “tail docking” in many parts of Europe to stop animals eating each other’s tails, even though the practice is banned. Instead, Scheepens argues, pigs need a more natural environment, to be able to root around in beds of straw or wood chips and have outdoor access, with a special toilet replacing slatted floors (where urine and faeces fall through and mix).
 
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‘It was sink or turn yourself in’: behind a dangerous 10,000-mile ocean pursuit

The crew of the Bob Barker and its partner ship, the Sam Simon (named for two famous donors to Sea Shepherd, which has long had close ties to Hollywood), understood what many laypeople do not: illegal fishing is big, open and ecologically devastating business. At the time of filming in 2015, it was a $10bn industry, policed in name by Interpol and cooperative countries but in effect by no one, save eco-vigilantes trained and equipped enough to brave the elements.Illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing (IUU) is a significant contributor to the ocean’s dwindling stocks of commercial fish; some estimates suggest 90% of the world’s population of large fish such as tuna, marlin, and swordfish have already vanished. One in five fish imported to the US was likely sourced illegally. Violators range from individual outfits adapted to industrial-scale illegal fishing, such as the Thunder (which Interpol suspected was backed by a Spanish illegal fish kingpin named Antonio Vidal), to China’s state-sanctioned fleet illegally catching squid off the coast of North Korea.
 
Climate and nature crises: solve both or solve neither, say experts

“Animal agriculture not only emits 10 to 100 times more greenhouse gases per unit product than plant-based foods, they also use 10 to 100 times more land,” said Prof Pete Smith, of the University of Aberdeen. “So more plant-based diets would mean more environmentally friendly farming and then there would be more land on which to apply nature-based solutions.”
 
Dodgy fake meat
Eat Just is racing to put ‘no-kill meat’ on your plate. Is it too good to be true?
Chief among them is cost. While numerous companies have come up with palatable formulations, few report being able to make their products for less than about $100 for a meal-size serving. Solving how to produce cultured meat at anything close to supermarket meat prices will ultimately make or break the industry’s mission.If you have a thousand cells, that’s a thousand things that can go wrong,” says San Martin, who is skeptical that lab-grown meat can ever be economically viable en masse. “It’s the kind of thing Silicon Valley loves. It’s flashy and high tech. But there are real barriers to scaling it up.”Another problem is fetal bovine serum (FBS) – a blood-like substance extracted from unborn calves that has historically been vital to growing cultured meat. The industry has faced criticism that its dependence on FBS runs counter to claims of being cruelty free.
 
The mice that roared: how eight tiny countries took on foreign fishing fleets

It has been described as “the most remarkable achievement of the Pacific island countries in the last 50 years”. In 1982, eight, mostly minuscule Pacific island countries in whose waters much of the world’s skipjack tuna was caught got together and decided to do something to get a share of the profits, of which they received precisely nothing. In a shining example of regional cooperation, the group, known as the Parties to the Nauru Agreement (PNA), successively outmanoeuvred the United States, Japan and Taiwan, and later mainland China and the European Union. “It was a David versus Goliath situation from the start,” said Jonathan Pryke, director of the Pacific Islands Program of the Lowy Institute in Sydney. Over four decades of trial and error, they created a system that Pryke calls “revolutionary” that today not only yields them half a billion dollars a year but also prevents the overfishing that international fishing fleets have carried out to deplete the waters off most poor countries. They were, from east to west, six micro-states made up mostly of tiny islands (Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Nauru, the Federated States of Micronesia and Palau) and two midsized countries, Papua New Guinea and Solomon Islands.
 
Microbes and solar power ‘could produce 10 times more food than plants’

Combining solar power and microbes could produce 10 times more protein than crops such as soya beans, according to a new study. The system would also have very little impact on the environment, the researchers said, in stark contrast to livestock farming which results in huge amounts of climate-heating gases as well as water pollution.Combining solar power and microbes could produce 10 times more protein than crops such as soya beans, according to a new study. The system would also have very little impact on the environment, the researchers said, in stark contrast to livestock farming which results in huge amounts of climate-heating gases as well as water pollution.
The concept uses electricity from solar panels and carbon dioxide from the air to create fuel for microbes, which are grown in bioreactor vats and then processed into dry protein powders. The process makes highly efficient use of land, water and fertiliser and could be deployed anywhere, not just in countries with strong sunshine or fertile soils, the scientists said.
 
Microbes and solar power ‘could produce 10 times more food than plants’

Combining solar power and microbes could produce 10 times more protein than crops such as soya beans, according to a new study. The system would also have very little impact on the environment, the researchers said, in stark contrast to livestock farming which results in huge amounts of climate-heating gases as well as water pollution.Combining solar power and microbes could produce 10 times more protein than crops such as soya beans, according to a new study. The system would also have very little impact on the environment, the researchers said, in stark contrast to livestock farming which results in huge amounts of climate-heating gases as well as water pollution.
The concept uses electricity from solar panels and carbon dioxide from the air to create fuel for microbes, which are grown in bioreactor vats and then processed into dry protein powders. The process makes highly efficient use of land, water and fertiliser and could be deployed anywhere, not just in countries with strong sunshine or fertile soils, the scientists said.

I've been following Solar Foods for a while. I signed-up for their newsletter. I very much want to invest in them, but I don't think they are accepting retail investors yet. I think they can become huge.
 
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My wife and I are vegetarians, she her whole life, while I decided to eliminate meat when I was 18. There is no downside. Even the many meat analogs are unnecessary. Looking at the human mouth, it correlates more closely to fruit eaters that meat eaters. Of course, human meat eaters don't want to hear this as they have developed an appetite and a taste for meat. And of course, they will die younger. Milli and I are 77, in great health, no sicknesses. I retired at age 70, while my meat eating brother retired at 58. Hmmm. Probably no correlation.

Studies done by Loma Linda University have shown that the average vegetarian lives, on average, ten years longer than meat eaters do. But it's like telling an overweight person that if they didn't eat so much they would feel better. I highly doubt that anyone on this forum will give up meat just to feel better and live longer.
 
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