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What a waste
- Thread starter montgom626
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Before you go too far down the path of anything but the adapter, remember that the 14-50 outlet and the J1772 mean a good bit of legwork, permits, breaker work, wire runs, and the current charger will charge almost twice as fast as a 14-50 outlet, and almost as fast as the fastest J1772. The adapter cable is just a simple click (and credit card) away. I've gotten plenty of use out of mine, and am quite happy to see the old style chargers stay while there is no adapter and software change to allow the roadsters to charge at an S HPWC.
Peter
Shop Tesla Gear Roadster High Power Wall Connector to Model S Adapter
NigelM
Recovering Member
Oh cry me a river....
1. How about we consider that if it wasn't for Roadster owners, Tesla probably wouldn't exist in it's form today and Model S might not exist at all?
2. Ever heard of Superchargers? Roadster owners haven't.
3. Model S J1772 Adapter = $95.00; Roadster J1772 Adapter = $600.00
4. Model S Mobile Charging Bundle = $655.00; Roadster Mobile Charger = $1,500.00 plus $100.00 for adapters
Maybe we can let the Roadster owners keep their chargers?
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That post now reads more aggressive than I intended. Nothing personal, but the thread title of "What a waste" is going to elicit some reaction.
Have you confirmed this with a purchasable-from-Tesla Model S adapter for the Roadster HPC? If not, your statement is incorrect.
Furthermore, if you were to make this observation in reverse (Roadster attempting to charge at a Model S HPWC) then you'd have a point -- because Tesla does not offer such an adapter.
So, if anything, you should be really happy that you're "A Model S trying to use Roadster tech" rather than the reverse.
glhs272
Unnamed plug faced villian
Peter,
I agree. The adapter route is really the way to go. I certainly would not want to do anything that would make the roadster unable to charge. I would simply buy an adapter for my personal use, but I am not aware of any other publicly accessible Roadster HPC anywhere else in southern Wisconsin. So if I did buy one I guess I just might as well leave it there for others to use. If I did that I would need a way to allow other Model S owners access without them being able to steal the adapter.
Puyallup Bill
Member
Agree.
I belong to an adapter share group, but since have purchased my own. With the really rapid progress on the I 5 superchargers, I've toyed with selling it, but I'll probably hang on to it as I know a couple of places I might find good use for it.
I understand most of the HPCs were donated by individuals - thank you - but who pays for the electricity? The one in Centralia WA is surely funded by the restaurant. The HPC in Ellensburg, WA - perhaps the city provides the electricity?
islandbayy
Active Member
At $650 for the adapter + shipping, a 14-50 outlet or multiple could be installed for that price. I would personally rather have more then one outlet, the roadster, + 2x14-50's. Potentially could have 3 vehicles charging. Building I have found is fairly open and should be fairly easy to run the conduit and install the outlets. Plus, their is more then plenty of electrical capacity in the building. I am going to try and contact the building owner and discuss some options with them.
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
And remember that a Model S HPC is only $1,200 if you are going to do a new install....
islandbayy
Active Member
Is that an "official" Tesla banner plate in the background? :
Tesla HPC at Road America
Road America - Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin
Tesla HPC at Road America
Road America - Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin
and 1200 I could potentially have 3-4. 14-50 outlets and charge 5 vehicles
Yes, and that would be wonderful.
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
and 1200 I could potentially have 3-4. 14-50 outlets and charge 5 vehicles
Yes, but this is a track, and if you are doing track driving, you are burning rated miles from the battery while on the track at 100-200 mph. Having an HPC with 56 mph charging will help keep the day going a lot better between track sessions, and help you charge up a lot more quickly at the end of the day to get home...
An example:
20 minutes on track, 60 minutes off track, repeat
240V/40A can only get back (in 80min) about 1/2 of what you spend (in the 20min)
These are rough numbers. I can look up the logs, if we really want to get into the numbers.
islandbayy
Active Member
Thats only good if you have the dual chargers, and it seems most people I meet do not. I know Mongom doesn't, I dont, and 3 other MS owners I know in S/E WI do not. My Idea is to have capability of as many charging as possible. And with the Supercharger Roll-out, a supercharger is/should be going in only about 40 miles away. Would also make more sense, that way if someone does need longer charging anyways, people would generally then plug in and go enjoy the festivities and events, your not going to walk back to the car just to move it after say, 60 or 80 minutes. That way you are not blocking a charging station. So for $1,200 let 1 car charge, despite it drawing 40 or 80 amps, or for $1,200, let 4 cars charge, all at 40 amps.
Just trying to rationalize what would be more convenient.
Track without dual chargers is generally going to be unpleasant on "duration" anyway. IMO.
islandbayy
Active Member
Have you been to Road America? It's not just about racing your own car. It's major events. Watching races, swap meets, Beer & Fun. http://www.roadamerica.com/ Check it out.
Problem with Road America, is that it is in the middle of nowhere. Even as a spectator (which most are), your going to need a charge for the round trip.
Roll back the thread and observe the portion I was replying to (and that I quoted): "if you are doing track driving".
That's the context of my comment, not "everything ever said about anything involving a track".
islandbayy
Active Member
Roll back the thread and observe the portion I was replying to (and that I quoted): "if you are doing track driving".
That's the context of my comment, not "everything ever said about anything involving a track".
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