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What I am getting with the Pano Roof??

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Jrogville, Feb 9, 2017.

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  1. Jrogville

    Jrogville Member

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    I've reserved and am waiting for a June 2015 CPO with the "All Glass Panoramic Roof". I had assumed that it was the same solid glass roof as is now offered in the Model S. But I was looking at the Options by Year TMC web page and found that the all-glass roof only started to be offered in June of 2016. The only other references were to a sun roof.

    Is the glass roof on my S just a fixed glass or is it a retracting sun roof? Frankly I was perfectly happy with the roof just being glass with no opening function, but I'd like to know what it is I'm getting. Have the sun roofs been solid without noise or leaking problems?
     
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    The pano roof on your CPO will be the retractable sunroof.
     
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    All glass actually only became an option in October with hw2. I have the all glass and it's great but you won't go wrong with the pano roof too. Just make sure it is sealed well to minimize wind noise.
     
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    My pano from my 2015 CPO was not sealed well (the black moulding is not fastened properly). I have a service appointment to have that looked at next weekend among other things. My wife is complaining that there is a lot of noise in the cabin, so I am hoping that's the issue.
     
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    I appreciate the warning, mbhforum, I'll preemptively ask them to look at that moulding. With that being on the roof, it might be an easy thing to overlook.
     
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    Pano roof is great. 2-3 extra inches more headroom all-round!
     
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    Pano also gives you roof rack mounting points. Reason I selected it over the all glass.
     
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    Is there still a lot of noise in the cabin when it's just you?
     
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    The option you're getting is great! It's now the more expensive option.
    You can open when you want some air, plus compatible with roof rack.
    The all-glass option on the newer cars does look clean, but less functional.
     
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    You get the option of sirus/ XM radio. Something not currently available with the all glass roof. The all glass roof is a few inches wider and does not have the cross bar so is a bit less intrusive and cleaner however.
     
  11. bob_p

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    I've had a pano roof on my P85 for 4 years/80K miles - and have ordered a pano roof for our new S 100D.

    With the pano roof you get XM radio support (requires subscription and the upgraded audio system) and several inches more headroom, which can be important for taller passengers in the back seats.

    I frequently drive with the pano roof open and windows down - getting close to a convertible experience.

    Another benefit of the pano roof is that you can "vent roof", which has been useful when parked outside when temperatures are high. Even though the new overheat protection should keep the inside of the car from getting too hot, venting the roof is more energy efficient. Plus, you can use the smartphone app to vent or close the roof remotely.

    As for road noise - compared to other cars, our S P85 is quieter. In high winds, we will get more noise, but that depends on the direction of the wind, and is more likely an issue with the side windows than with the roof. Most of the time, the loudest sound is tire noise - which gets noticeably quieter when we're driving on new asphalt.

    If buying a used car with a pano, you should do a road test and verify there aren't any problems. Tesla did some service adjustments (at least on the early pano cars) to address a few issues - something that should have been fixed in later production cars.
     
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    Tough call. Pano gets you more headroom in rear, XM if you want it, cabin more airy, ability to vent, higher resale...
    Solid roof gets you less maintenance issues as car ages, quieter, cheaper to buy, car stays cooler in summer...
     
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    Worth noting : the pano roof was changed around April 2015. The previous version was prone to leaks because the gutter was made out of 3 pieces. The newer version is one-piece and they have a lot less problems with it.

    It's super easy to check which one you have. Check the roof rack attach points location :
    If it's like in this pic, i.e. right beside the body-colored part, you have the older roof. If it's closer to the centerline of the car - right in the "middle" of the black plastic trim, you have the newer one.
     
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    It's not a call for the OP. He ordered a CPO with the pano roof. He just didn't know if that meant the all-glass or the sunroof.
     
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    I think you will like the pano roof. I have a June 2015 85D, and use it A lot when the outside temps are above about 65 degrees. I have had no issues with leaks or excessive noise.
     
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    I think the Pano is neat (big, functional) but not ideal. Vent is LOUD, and I felt like I had more headroom w the newer glass roof. Maybe just in my head. But the pano roof is def loud all around, vent is unusable IMO.
     
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    This is interesting. Looking at you signature, your 85D and mine are practically kissing cousins. My VIN is 89642. I wonder how many cars come out of the factory per day?

    I was wanting to buy one of the Shop Tesla screen sets for the roof glass, and it says they only work for cars built before June 15 of 2015. With yours starting production on May 29 and mine being 1,480 cars before you, I would think it would be safe to assume that mine was manufactured prior to June 15th, 2015.

    It's so odd to see so specific a date for compatibility. The only record my CPO specialist could find was that mine was built in June of 2015, so it's good that you posted, because otherwise I wouldn't have known when in June mine was built to determine if the screens would work on mine. You didn't order those screens by any chance, did you?

    Tesla — Model S Panoramic Roof Sunshades
     
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    By 'Vent', do you mean driving with the sunroof open?
     
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    With the pano, there are three fixed positions - vent (back end of the roof panel tilts up), 75% (the default "open" position) and 100% (fully open). Though you can also use the touch screen or scroll wheel button to set the roof to any specific position from 0-100%.

    Vent will create a lot of noise at higher speeds. With the roof open, you need to at least open the back windows, to provide airflow - and it gets loud at highway speeds - though that's true of convertibles...

    Not sure if it's true for later cars - but for my 4 year old S P85, I had the middle rear seat belt flopping with the roof open, and found that by sliding the buckle all the way up to the top of the seat, I could eliminate the flopping noises from the seat belt.
     

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