Kant.Ing
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Can't wait to see HW4 if it's still on schedule. We had Autonomy Day 2019 for HW3. Has anyone had any rumors about Autonomy Day 2021?
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What if FSD doesn't materialize?
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DJVoorhees
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How about for it to actually come to fruition? Most cars that were purchased w/ FSD will be sold, traded in, or in the junk yard before any real FSD is ever realized. And you dont get to keep your FSD, it dies with the car. Remember when Elon was telling people that they wouldnt be able to keep their Tesla leases because Tesla was going to need them for their robo taxi fleet? LOL, he know that was a lie when he said it.
I would tend to agree. I don’t think anybody actually buys FSD anymore so eventually the liability will just disappear. I really don’t believe there was originally any intention to deceive and they probably honestly thought it would work. But I kinda doubt now that FSD will ever be released and they should fess up and stop selling it. 6 years and only marginal improvements. I’d buy it again but not for the money they are asking now.
JMHO.
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Knightshade
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I think if they stopped selling it, that would be an admission that they never provided it... so anyone who'd purchased it in the past might be due a refund. I agree with "I don’t think anybody actually buys FSD anymore so eventually the liability will just disappear". That's probably part of the plan. If they just keep increasing the price, people will eventually stop buying it.
FSD gets you NOA, lane changes, summon, smart summon, autopark, and traffic light/sign control.
You can't say nobody buys it with that included.
I think they'll move to subscriptions for $50 a month so that any $10K purchase is insane, and then they have no long term liability.
I have been expecting a class action lawsuit over FSD for some time. I'm almost certain it's coming. They have been selling it for years with constant promises it was just around the corner and it's still not here.
They should change the name to SAD, some assisted driving.
I believe Tesla has so much cash now that they should refund everyone that bought FSD and give them a year free subscription as a goodwill when FSD is complete and available to anyone.
But TSLA could take a bit hit, so they probably will never do that.
But TSLA could take a bit hit, so they probably will never do that.
Are you referring to Navigation on Autopilot (Beta), Autosteer (Beta), Summon (Beta), and Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (Beta)?
I don’t consider those actually released yet. And if they get you into trouble, I suspect Tesla doesn’t either.
Knightshade
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That's weird. I've been using them (NoA especially) for years. I mean Gmail was in "beta" for 5 years but still got used a lot too.
Do you live in 2017? If so I have a few things to warn you about....
No, FSD is perfect. Full Self Drive your Tesla, cause it ain't gonna do it for youThey should change the name to SAD, some assisted driving.
.I honestly don't know why anyone would NOT want to drive themselves in the Model 3, it's so much fun.
No, FSD is perfect. Full Self Drive your Tesla, cause it ain't gonna do it for you
I honestly don't know why anyone would NOT want to drive themselves in the Model 3, it's so much fun.
A full self drive your Tesla package would be pretty nifty.
Where it comes with:
Blindspot monitoring that works
360 degree parking so you can park yourself
cross traffic alert
Heads up display
Night vision display
An actual Rain sensor
A physical switch for wipers
Turn signals with a good notch between blink 3 times, and full
Navigation maps that actually get updated
A button to report problems with Navigation
Waypoints
Oh, absolutely. Customers can expect that the promised functionality will be delivered within a reasonable timeframe.
I was promised full self-driving without any compromises. I got basically nothing compared to the EAP option.
The major problem for the class action suits is the mandatory arbitration clause in the purchase contract. I've opted out of it (it was an option in pre-2019 contracts) but I think that there might not be enough people for the suit to be effective.
DJVoorhees
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If you use Elon's comments alone, they defanitely have something to go on.
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ChicagoSox
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when the principal of the company makes statements in public they can be used in court, doenst have to be in a sales contract
Agreed. I would rather have a few practical features found on cheap Mazdas, like rear cross traffic alert. I am also not a fan of the way blind spot monitoring works. You would think with all these cameras it would show the camera feed of lane next to you on the display when you signal. Low cost Honda Civics have this. So, there are a few basics they need to get right before trying to figure out how to get the car to full self drive.No, FSD is perfect. Full Self Drive your Tesla, cause it ain't gonna do it for you
I honestly don't know why anyone would NOT want to drive themselves in the Model 3, it's so much fun.
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