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What if Tesla added a paid HPWC spot to its SC stations ?

Discussion in 'Charging Standards and Infrastructure' started by macpacheco, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. macpacheco

    macpacheco Member

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    Here's a (potentially stupid) idea (or not).
    What if Tesla added a paid regular level 3 charging sport to most of its supercharger stations ?
    Why ? Its a great way to add even more water to the mouths of LEAF / Volt / ... owners.
    It would be free publicity to those most likely to buy a Gen III Tesla, and perhaps some that might have the dough to get a Model S/X but don't believe in it. As they charge near Tesla owners, they will get the vibe...
    Plus it would add an extra revenue stream to Tesla.
    Just saying...
     
  2. swegman

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    The HPWC can only charge a Model S. You would need a charger with a J1772 plug for the LEAF, Volt et al.
     
  3. hcsharp

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    I assume you meant Level 2 (which is what the HPWC is). Roadster owners have been asking for this since before the first supercharger went online. At many sites it doesn't make sense because parking spaces are at a premium. You would be giving up a supercharging spot for a space where cars would be parked longer and ultimately wouldn't help Tesla owners.

    Maybe not those cars but the Roadster community is much more resourceful. I charge my Roadster routinely from Model S HPWCs and UMCs.:smile:
     
  4. apacheguy

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    Some stations already have this (Atascadero is one). I don't think Tesla needs any more publicity amongst the EV world.
     
  5. macpacheco

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    I mean the highest power charger that can charge a LEAF, Volt and other non Tesla vehicles.
    Combine that with better publicity that Tesla has offered other EV makers shared access to the SC network (provided they contribute accordingly) it could generate consumer pressure towards Nissan, GM and others joining the SC revolution.
    Sorry for the mistake, I don't own an EV, they are just too damn expensive in Brazil (even for upper middle class families). A LEAF here costs US$ 85k ! A US$ 100k Tesla here would cost US$ 220k ! Sky high car import taxes.
     
  6. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    The problem with "paid" is that there would have to be a billing system, so it would cost Tesla a small fortune to implement.
     
  7. macpacheco

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    Without billing Tesla would be giving non Tesla cars free charging... Does that make any sense ? Pure marketing move ?
    Can't do it by 3G / GSM networks ?
     
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    The highest power is different for all those vehicles you mentioned, and it also depends on whether it's Level 2 (240v AC) or Level 3 (DC). Level 2 ranges from 16A to 80A AC for non-Model S vehicles. Like apacheguy said, Tesla doesn't need any more publicity in the EV community.
     
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    +1

    If you already own another electric car, you bought it because (a) you couldn't afford a Tesla Model S / Roadster or (b) you needed a city oriented car.
    For me, it was (b) for my little Smart ED, which is perfect for my short commute on the back streets/lanes I travel on.

    I severely regret buying our Mercedes GLK a few years ago, as it would have been a good down payment on a Model S...


    As for charging, I feel that L2 AC charging is not very useful, but even offering DCQC for Leaf or BMW i3 standards at the same sight would not be an advantage, as those vehicles cannot drive far enough to get to the next supercharger location!

    Personally, the availability of tens of thousands of L2 AC charge points only cements in the short range EV's we have today. Only Tesla is thinking of the grander road trip strategy.
     

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