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What is the range of electric cars in 2018? | REAL RANGE TEST

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by WannabeOwner, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. WannabeOwner

    WannabeOwner Active Member

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    NameTest1 miTest2 miWh/miWLTPAt 0%Comment
    Hyundai Ioniq Electric124140196104%5-8km
    Kia Soul EV133138218118%7km
    Nissan Leaf14713726180%20km
    BMW i3140148237103%30km
    Volkswagen e-Golf136152199106%5km
    Renault Zoe17018423495%7km
    Jaguar i-Pace19119944165%10kmPre-production model
    Opel Ampera-e23623425899%5km
    Tesla Model X25224637593%10kmWLTP est. ABRP 386 Wh/mi, 229 miles
    Tesla Model S 100D25627033091%?ABRP 324 Wh/mi, 274 miles
    A Better Route Planner figures shown for Tesla, by comparison

    If i-Pace improves pre-production to match Model-X Wh/mi the tests would have been 225-234, and to match Model-S then 255-266
     
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  2. Valore

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    Crazy how efficient that E-Golf is, although it's just a converted ICE car.

    When they put money and engineering into that VW ID real EV car, they are going to smoke the competition hard in efficiency.
     
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  3. Saghost

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    In fairness, it's not exactly a converted ICE model. VW developed the MQB platform with EV and PHEV version in mind. Like the Ioniq and Clarity, it's a platform intended to conver a bunch of bases (and therefore having some compromises for each.)

    I'm looking forward to seeing what VW does with the ID line, if they ever get here. (VAG is the undisputed king of EV press releases...)
     
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    Wow... the I-Pace the worst at missing the range estimate by a long shot... Admittedly pre-production, but still....
     
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    I seriously doubt the MQB was made with BEVs in mind. plug ins, yes, but not full BEVs simply because the space for the battery is severly limited.
    The MEB which is used for VWs ID and following will be their first real BEV base.
     
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    VW said it was - and the E-Golf is the BEV it was designed for, with a pack and space that match closely - a space that's empty on ICE cars. A commuter EV rather than a long range one, certainly.
     
  7. daktari

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    This test has been discussed a lot in Norway, and there are some variables not accounted for.
    They drove 100-0 but we don't know if it was all same day or the same driver.
    Longer range cars drove a different track than the short range ones, but not specified. Some of the cars perform as expected, some perform massively better than rated range and some perform really bad.
     
  8. Phrixotrichus

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    uuh, a definite no here.

    The MQB was designed to save on R&D across all brands and sub-brands in VW, it`s the evolution of the platform-concept VW used before, it was NOT designed just to be able to make an E-Golf, that was just a sidenote-target.
    The MEB is the one and only dedicated basis for BEVs in VW because you can`t fit an ice engine in there anymore.
     
  9. WannabeOwner

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    As it understood it it was all cars on the same day (in convoy I think) with a Seat Alhambra as the lead, repeated a couple of days later for the second test. Drivers were swapped during the journey to mix them up, vehicles were split into three groups (according to range).

    (the description is 11m00s in)
     
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  10. Kandiru

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    You are right, it is a typical aftthought electrification attempt, watch this production video, unlike Tesla they slam a ton of parts under the hood high above the axle, herd instinct wins over logic once again, watch at 1:45

     

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