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What range would be possible for Model S with latest Model 3 battery technology?

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Tiger, Aug 8, 2017.

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What range would be possible for Model S with latest Model 3 battery technology?

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  1. Tiger

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    And would it affect performance?

    Looking at the specs the MS dimensions are 196"x86.2" while M3 dimensions are 184.8" x 82.2".

    This makes the MS roughly 11,2% larger than the M3, which would indicate a possible 89kwh battery for MS and MX.
     
  2. KarenRei

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    This is a misconception. Tesla has continuously been clear about this: M3 is not an "advanced MS"; it's a lower end vehicle. The battery energy density on M3 is lower than that on MS, according to the EPA filings (150 vs. 170 kWh/kg for the pack as a whole). New batteries are regularly released for the MS and MX, and these are all "the latest technology".

    Different vehicles. Different needs (price, power, longevity, volume, mass). Different cells.

    Also, I don't even understand what your "range" options are supposed to mean. If those are miles, they're terrible ranges, and if they're kilometers they're even worse.
     
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    While the Model 3 may not be an "advanced Model S", it is more advanced than Model S in several areas. This is simply a fact of life given that the Model S was designed over 6 years ago. It's an aging platform. Model 3 has half the wiring of Model S. It has an interior camera. It has a more advanced interior door opening/closing mechanism. It has updated headlights that are probably better than Model S, whose LED headlights couldn't be much worse. It's now coming out that Model 3 has Autopilot hardware 2.5 with added redundancy that Model S/X hardware lacks. Model 3 uses a more efficient, permanent magnet motor compared to Model S/X induced magnet motor (less efficient but better performance). Model 3 has vertically adjustable seat belts, door pockets and lighted vanity mirrors - things the Model S still lacks after five years in production. Model 3 has a crazy advanced ventilation system where you aim the air vents using the touch screen - no physical interaction with the vents at all. That's light years ahead of Model S/X.

    Yes, the Model 3 is more advanced than the Model S/X in many ways.
     
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    Don't act incensed and play dumb, it's obvious he is referring to kWh. I'm of the opinion that we will see a radically redesigned Model S by the end of the year with a 120 kWh battery on the top end.
     
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    Ah. No, it wasn't obvious to me either, since the poll question specifically asked about range. The lack of votes is also telling.
     

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