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What temperature does overheat protection kick in? Any way to check its working?
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Well, David Cameron left his kids in a pub once..
It happens.. sometimes with fatal results.
Edit: I'm a bit surprised people seem to think this doesn't happen.
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abcnews.go.com
www.portugalresident.com
People get distracted, routine kicks in.. it's rarely malicious although frequently the parent gets tried to manslaughter anyway.
It happens.. sometimes with fatal results.
Edit: I'm a bit surprised people seem to think this doesn't happen.
A Florida woman who left a 2-year-old child in a hot car before the toddler's death 'got distracted,' she told police
Juana Perez-Domingo had been paid to drive the child to a day care facility, but she "got distracted" and left the child in a hot car for seven hours.
3-year-old boy dies after he's left in hot car in South Carolina: Police
A 3-year-old died in a hot car in South Carolina. This marks the sixth child to die in a hot car in the U.S. this year.
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After six miscarriages, US couple's baby dies in hot car
The two-year-old girl died after her babysitter forgot to drop her off at nursery.
www.bbc.co.uk
Nine-month-old boy in Pace was first child to die in a hot car in Florida in 2021
A nine-month-old boy who died last week in Pace was the first child to die in a hot car in Florida this year, according to KidsAndCars.org.
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Two year old dies after being 'forgotten in car' all day - Portugal Resident
A two-year-old girl died in Lisbon yesterday after being forgotten on the back seat of a car. The case has been passed to the Commission for the Protection of Children and Young People (CPCJ). PJ police are also investigating. Explain reports, the mother left home with her three children in the...
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People get distracted, routine kicks in.. it's rarely malicious although frequently the parent gets tried to manslaughter anyway.
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ACarneiro
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Pretty sure it works with Sentry. Does with mine anyway.
I think it’s tilt/intrusion that doesn’t work with overheat protection.
I always wondered why, and now I know!
Incidentally, how do you change the default setting?
Mine defaults to ON (which is fine), but my sister lives in Portugal and hers defaults to OFF. I have to disable tilt/intrusion and enable overheat protection every time I get out of the car…
MrBadger
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I use to think that waking the car was sufficient and even had a TeslaFi event to do a scheduled wake mid morning during periods when it was a problem. But from last year's experience, it didn't always work. Now after further observation, I have a better understanding why.
What @durzal says about opening the drivers door (not sure if other doors have same effect) seems to be the minimum trigger to re-enable the 12 hour timer. If you are greater than 12 hours (I take the 12 hours at its word, not specifically tested it) since last drive (opening drivers door) then waking the car via the app or third party API control such as TeslaFi is not sufficient to trigger the overheat protection. However, if overheat protection has run and say its gone overcast and everything cooled down so the car has gone back to sleep, then if it heats back up again, reawakening the car via the app (and I guess third party) will then restart overheat protection if its still within the 12 hour window. What is not clear is whether the car will at some point have awoken itself - I *think* it will as iirc that this is what I experienced on a couple of occasions last year (instances of car awaking multiple times during the day to run auto condition), although cannot confirm the exact circumstances.
Wow, this makes me so sadWell, David Cameron left his kids in a pub once..
It happens.. sometimes with fatal results.
Edit: I'm a bit surprised people seem to think this doesn't happen.
A Florida woman who left a 2-year-old child in a hot car before the toddler's death 'got distracted,' she told police
Juana Perez-Domingo had been paid to drive the child to a day care facility, but she "got distracted" and left the child in a hot car for seven hours.3-year-old boy dies after he's left in hot car in South Carolina: Police
A 3-year-old died in a hot car in South Carolina. This marks the sixth child to die in a hot car in the U.S. this year.After six miscarriages, US couple's baby dies in hot car
The two-year-old girl died after her babysitter forgot to drop her off at nursery.www.bbc.co.ukNine-month-old boy in Pace was first child to die in a hot car in Florida in 2021
A nine-month-old boy who died last week in Pace was the first child to die in a hot car in Florida this year, according to KidsAndCars.org.eu.pnj.comTwo year old dies after being 'forgotten in car' all day - Portugal Resident
A two-year-old girl died in Lisbon yesterday after being forgotten on the back seat of a car. The case has been passed to the Commission for the Protection of Children and Young People (CPCJ). PJ police are also investigating. Explain reports, the mother left home with her three children in the...
People get distracted, routine kicks in.. it's rarely malicious although frequently the parent gets tried to manslaughter anyway.
I had no idea this was a thing. Why am I not surprised the majority of these are from across the pond. I get it might not be malicious, but kids that age are totally helpless.
I should think the reason for that is simply because they have more dangerously hot days in an average summer than we do. I wouldn't be too quick to assume that that we are necessarily a nation with above average child care ... maybe ... but when I look around, maybe not!
Well everywhere seems to have a hotter summer than us. I'm surprised it's lasted more than a few weeks at the moment. I know it's not a good thing to tar everyone with the same brush, but when I hear of something that I think could never be true, it becomes more apparent most over there to be brushed with stupidity
Like they say if the shoe fits...
I think this is overheat protection kicking in. I've seen this behaviour quite a few times since I switched that on. I've not been on the app during this time, so the car appears to waken itself to check the temp and perhaps cool down. Inside temp is not super hot, so perhaps it's just checking.
tardis56
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I got one of these that helps bring temps down Tesla Model 3 Windshield Sunshade Folding Sun Visor Protector Sun Shade Cover 2021 Upgrade : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
I think it now works with sentry. I have sentry on at work at it keeps my car at a constant 38 degrees.
My screen sits in the sun from early morning to early afternoon. I place a towel over it to keep the heat down. Have had an occasion where the screen locked when hot and had to do a soft reboot (two scroll wheels no brake).
Switching on climate, in the app, reduces the cabin temperature from 35 to 19 in a couple of minutes. If plugged in it takes power from the house.
I also have solar panels so it uses them to cool the cabin.
Sun heats the car, sun runs the AC, balanced.
Switching on climate, in the app, reduces the cabin temperature from 35 to 19 in a couple of minutes. If plugged in it takes power from the house.
I also have solar panels so it uses them to cool the cabin.
Sun heats the car, sun runs the AC, balanced.
DigbyChicken
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Today I've been checking (via the Tessie app) and the interior temperature this morning - car parked at home, plugged in, not going anywhere for a while but sitting in direct sunlight - was creeping beyond 50 degrees. So I vented the windows and/or switched on AC until it came down to 20 degrees (an experiment, as much as anything else). This afternoon I've left the car to its own devices - and suddenly it's started keeping the temperature at a nice 38 degrees. So, checking back through this thread... It looks like I needed to reset the 12-hour timer by opening the door and closing it again?! It seems I can do the same by venting the windows/turning on the aircon with an app. Which is nice - even though I can literally see the car from where I'm sitting. (I don't want to leave the house if I don't have to, it's boiling.
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Jason71
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Are we all over thinking this?
Cars always got hot in the sun and Tesla is based in California. You would like to hope they are built to deal with heat. Since the COP only operates for 12 hours and several people have advocated the case that it's primarily an anti BBQ your kids feature rather than to protect the car feature anyway should we really worry about this? I have another car sitting next to my Tesla that cannot report its cabin temperature remotely and I have never worried about it. Yes the Tesla has a glass roof but my neighbour has 2 black cars and they haven't melted
Cars always got hot in the sun and Tesla is based in California. You would like to hope they are built to deal with heat. Since the COP only operates for 12 hours and several people have advocated the case that it's primarily an anti BBQ your kids feature rather than to protect the car feature anyway should we really worry about this? I have another car sitting next to my Tesla that cannot report its cabin temperature remotely and I have never worried about it. Yes the Tesla has a glass roof but my neighbour has 2 black cars and they haven't melted
Maybe overthinking it? Probably overthinking it, since the Model 3 has been out since like 2018 (or 2017) or something so I would have thought we would have heard about screens failing en masse on US cars by now.
After the yellow border problem on Model S/X, I'm wary of trusting Tesla implicitly to have designed everything in the car to withstand sustained temperatures. I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving an iPad in the car, yet the screen is right there.
Also COP doesn't prevent UV damage / premature aging or anything like that.
I definitely agree that there is an "out of sight, out of mind" element to this. If I didn't know how hot it was getting inside, or Cabin Overheat Protection didn't even exist, I'd probably feel differently. Hell if the feature was called "Dogs, Cats and Children Protection" instead I'd probably be inclined not to use it.
Even having said all of the above I still feel more comfortable knowing the interior is under 40C. I can't really explain why, I just feel like 1-2% battery loss is worth it for peace of mind, however illogical that is. If I lived in Florida or something and it meant having COP active for practically the entire year, for longer, then perhaps I'd feel differently about it, but in the UK we only have a few days or weeks of these sorts of temperatures before it calms down a bit.
After the yellow border problem on Model S/X, I'm wary of trusting Tesla implicitly to have designed everything in the car to withstand sustained temperatures. I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving an iPad in the car, yet the screen is right there.
Also COP doesn't prevent UV damage / premature aging or anything like that.
I definitely agree that there is an "out of sight, out of mind" element to this. If I didn't know how hot it was getting inside, or Cabin Overheat Protection didn't even exist, I'd probably feel differently. Hell if the feature was called "Dogs, Cats and Children Protection" instead I'd probably be inclined not to use it.
Even having said all of the above I still feel more comfortable knowing the interior is under 40C. I can't really explain why, I just feel like 1-2% battery loss is worth it for peace of mind, however illogical that is. If I lived in Florida or something and it meant having COP active for practically the entire year, for longer, then perhaps I'd feel differently about it, but in the UK we only have a few days or weeks of these sorts of temperatures before it calms down a bit.
I would say, definitely yes! As you've said they were made by a company based in California, they're sold all over the world in climates far sunnier and warmer than ours (Australia, Florida, Dubai anyone?), other than odd issues with some screens on the early S & X if there was something different about the Tesla that makes it likely to melt/fry itself in the sun, I think it would have been all over the news years ago and the cabin would actually keep itself below 40 degrees until the battery died rather than just for 12 hours in an attempt to mitigate the lawsuits
I haven't yet managed to burn my legs (on the rare occasions that I wear shorts) on the fake leather seats, so I'm fairly certain that it's no worse than most other cars!
I think this is possibly down to Tesla choosing to name a feature something that most people interpret to mean something else - Autopilot anyone? I mean if it was called "Don't fry your kids after leaving the car" no one would be expecting it to keep their car cool.
But, each to their own, if you are happy keeping yours below 39 degrees, go for it - makes no difference to me
You are all over thinking this. The cabin overheat protection was a response to people leaving kids in the car. At the time it came out we had a few very public instances in the USA.
Your Tesla is made in the desert of California and stored there for sometimes months.
I don't have cabin overheat on. I have no kids or pets to leave in the car.
If it was something needed to prevent damage to the car you would not have the option to turn it off. Kind of like the battery heating and cooling itself when parked.
Your Tesla is made in the desert of California and stored there for sometimes months.
I don't have cabin overheat on. I have no kids or pets to leave in the car.
If it was something needed to prevent damage to the car you would not have the option to turn it off. Kind of like the battery heating and cooling itself when parked.
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