For some vehicles they do, for other vehicles they don't.Do the cables not reach the charge ports of non-Tesla cars that are parked properly (either nose-in or backed in)?
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For some vehicles they do, for other vehicles they don't.Do the cables not reach the charge ports of non-Tesla cars that are parked properly (either nose-in or backed in)?
In most, or some cases, no.Do the cables not reach the charge ports of non-Tesla cars that are parked properly (either nose-in or backed in)?
lol, that will result in Tesla banning a whole bunch of Teslas.As a minimum Tesla needs to ensure:
1. A minimum charging speed i.e. nothing less than 100 kWh.
The mistake you make is that you have tunnel vision of the walled garden that Tesla built (in North America) that prevents Tesla drivers from fast charging elsewhere other than the Supercharger.
In Europe, plenty of Tesla drivers rarely charge at the Superchargers because they can fast charge elsewhere.
No Bolts, Leaf, BZ4X, i3, Mini SE.The two upsides I can find is that allowing "the masses" into Supercharger stations would pump cash into that program and allow Tesla to build and maintain a lot more of them, possibly giving Tesla drivers more station choices in trade for increased users at them.
And more broadly, if Superchargers were open to the general public, I think it might shame the other charging solutions into upping their game - currently most non-Tesla chargers are poorly maintained, in lousy locations, and just awful compared to what Tesla can do. Healthy competition might help.
Downsides are of course having morons park their mustangs in a favorite charging spot all day.
If Tesla opens up the Supercharger and nobody wants a Tesla vehicle anymore, that just shows how far Tesla has fallen behind the curve.The mistake you make is being totally wrong about that.
This thread is asking what will happen when they open up the network.
And many still many others in Europe bought a Tesla because it gave them access to the best charging network in addition to other chargers.
It's an even greater incentive in North America.
Fully opening up the network with no incentive given for owning a Tesla removes a reason to own a Tesla.
Hence the OP's very obvious question.
Uber can solve that problem by installing fast chargers and charging its vehicles at its own branch locations.Already bad enough with Uber drivers hogging all the chargers and staying plugged in to 100%.
Or Tesla start charging commercial rates (70-80c/kWh) instead of 35-40 for known uber/hertz VINs.Uber can solve that problem by installing fast chargers and charging its vehicles at its own branch locations.
Oh, wait! Uber can't because Tesla uses a proprietary connector that is incompatible with fast chargers from other companies!
This is insane and unenforceable.Or Tesla start charging commercial rates (70-80c/kWh) instead of 35-40 for known uber/hertz VINs.
Not at all. Tesla knows which vehicles are owned by Hertz and are being sublet out to Uber drivers. Discourage supercharger hogging in urban centers by charging rates commensurate with commercial use.This is insane and unenforceable.
But that goes against their current policy, which is that commercial users, including Uber drivers, are allowed to use the Superchargers as long as their vehicle has a pay-as-you-go Supercharging. There is no restriction on where or how much they are allowed to Supercharge, or to what percentage.Not at all. Tesla knows which vehicles are owned by Hertz and are being sublet out to Uber drivers. Discourage supercharger hogging in urban centers by charging rates commensurate with commercial use.
If Tesla is having to build more superchargers to accommodate the surge in vehicles using them (more than just consumer sales) then commercial drivers should have to pay more to offset that.But that goes against their current policy, which is that commercial users, including Uber drivers, are allowed to use the Superchargers as long as their vehicle has a pay-as-you-go Supercharging. There is no restriction on where or how much they are allowed to Supercharge, or to what percentage.
That would be a new policy that Tesla would have to enact, and it should only apply to future vehicle sales. Anyone that has purchased under the current policy should be able to continue to use it how it was offered to them.If Tesla is having to build more superchargers to accommodate the surge in vehicles using them (more than just consumer sales) then commercial drivers should have to pay more to offset that.
What would be the basis for treating Hertz-owned Ubers different than any other personally-owned Tesla used as a rideshare car, or for any other commercial purpose?Not at all. Tesla knows which vehicles are owned by Hertz and are being sublet out to Uber drivers. Discourage supercharger hogging in urban centers by charging rates commensurate with commercial use.
Because they’re ruining the experience for non commercial users.What would be the basis for treating Hertz-owned Ubers different than any other personally-owned Tesla used as a rideshare car, or for any other commercial purpose?
The entire idea of charging different rates based on the intended use of the energy is ridiculous. Set a rate according to the market and let people decide if they want to pay it. Done.
Sounds like Tesla needs to build more chargers or raise prices. Maybe both.Because they’re ruining the experience for non commercial users.
You clearly haven’t seen your town go from being able to hit a SC with no wait at all at any time to showing up and having to queue up 4-8 deep at any time but dead of night from one month to the next.
It’s ridiculous and it needs to stop.
This is a problem in any case. Just last week I was at a pull-in supercharger that some dork backed into and used the wrong pedestal, effectively blocking off two spots. For that matter the navigator has no idea when a spot is ICEd either, which is way more common.I forgot to mention one other issue.
The Tesla navigator reports several chargers free on a supercharging station so you navigate there.
At arrival you see that there is no space left to park/charge a Tesla despite the nav said so.
Tesla doesnt have a clue about how other car brands is parked, Tesla can only see that they are connected