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Well - last I heard they we're trying to redefine available to mean available for dealers to order.The Bolt will available across the US and in Canada before the end of this year. GM has mentioned this numerous times.
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Well - last I heard they we're trying to redefine available to mean available for dealers to order.The Bolt will available across the US and in Canada before the end of this year. GM has mentioned this numerous times.
So they were, which was BS. Since then they have re-confirmed "availability" to mean on dealer lots.Well - last I heard they we're trying to redefine available to mean available for dealers to order.
I think we should have a poll, with a range of prices.
My biggest problem with my 2012 Volt, is that it is to small for my taste. Their is absolutely no space in back, i wish they had based it on the Cruze. Besides that the two biggest reasons as to why i'm not getting the Bolt. Is A no supercharging network and B the interior quality on my 40,000 dollars car is appalling. Hard plastics and cloth seats you see in the cheapest of cars (seriously though they scratch your skin). Finally, depreciation i bought my 40,000 car for 15000 dollars!
With the given specs and price, I think the Bolt will easily sell 30k vehicles a year simply by cannibalizing Leaf owners. Unless they do something very dumb like the ELR marketing, I don't think it will be a challenge.I sure take a 180-degree different view of the Bolt. I feel it is, regardless of what GM execs say, nothing but a compliance vehicle. GM has exactly the same reasons to kill the Bolt as they had to kill the EV1. Think of GM products as computer printers - they'll give you the car in order to sell the ink you must buy later (and the ink is parts and service).
Their dealerships don't want an EV, so who's going to sell the Bolt? GM is deliberately not building a long-distance charging network like Tesla did, so they have non intention of speeding adoption of the new platform. GM doesn't want an EV, doesn't like EVs and their dealers will refuse to sell it.
How does GM spell Bolt? DEAD.
Unless you can show that GM makes more on parts (not service - GM doesn't make money on service), this is a bad analogy. Inkjet printers are sold at a loss to lock you in to their overpriced ink cartridges (where the real profit is made).Think of GM products as computer printers - they'll give you the car in order to sell the ink you must buy later (and the ink is parts and service).
I sure take a 180-degree different view of the Bolt. I feel it is, regardless of what GM execs say, nothing but a compliance vehicle. GM has exactly the same reasons to kill the Bolt as they had to kill the EV1. Think of GM products as computer printers - they'll give you the car in order to sell the ink you must buy later (and the ink is parts and service).
Their dealerships don't want an EV, so who's going to sell the Bolt? GM is deliberately not building a long-distance charging network like Tesla did, so they have non intention of speeding adoption of the new platform. GM doesn't want an EV, doesn't like EVs and their dealers will refuse to sell it.
How does GM spell Bolt? DEAD.
GM has exactly the same reasons to kill the Bolt as they had to kill the EV1.
Not sure you can call them competitors in design. The Bolt will be a much cheaper built car. The price being touted includes a dealer's 'add on cost'. The 3 will not need to include a dealer in the price so given near equal final cost, the 3 has more of the cost going to production. Only way GM can compete is by losing money on each sale.
volt a luxury car.....drive one for two years......not even close.. seats are cheap junk and sit at a strange angle... rides like a chevette
gm doesnt want to sell the volt......here look at this suv!!!!,!
I don’t think that TESLA is going to come out with an electric for less than $50,000.00 any time soon. They don’t have the ability to produce 300,000 units per year. Given the number of Leaf owners that would switch to Tesla they would need table to produce that many.