Why would you want to be REMOVED. Just turn FSD Beta off in the Menu and don't use it. That way anytime you feel the urge are change your mind it is just a Switch away.
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What Would Cause You to Give Up on being part of FSD Beta Testing?
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SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
Interesting. In my 2017 Model S the frequent phantom braking is what makes me want to stop using AP altogether. It's annoying during the daytime, but absolutely maddening in frequency and severity at night. I'm going to try disabling the FSD Beta options and see if things get better.
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
I'm starting to think that FSD Beta works much better in the Model 3 and Y than in the older S and X. It's quite unusable in our cars, other than get get some high-stress laughs at how the car keeps trying to kill us every 30 seconds or so.
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
Yes, just add a new profile and name it. It defaults to the current settings.
One reason would be to get the regular software that everyone else gets. It will restore your radar functionality, if you have radar on your car. Turning FSD off won't. Another reason is that you might have to wait for new features to be added in FSD., that added to the regular software updates.,first.
Fernand
Active Member
Not sure radar functionality will be restored. Do you know that it will?
It's supposed to be all "pure vision" going forward. Maintaining two more branches on the code would create more bugs etc.
I understand the problems with reconciling radar and camera "realities", but suspect it was unwise to entirely nix radar.
I'm gradually getting more comfortable riding the Beta. No reason to use it non-stop and no reason to give it up.
It's supposed to be all "pure vision" going forward. Maintaining two more branches on the code would create more bugs etc.
I understand the problems with reconciling radar and camera "realities", but suspect it was unwise to entirely nix radar.
I'm gradually getting more comfortable riding the Beta. No reason to use it non-stop and no reason to give it up.
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
After a few miles of testing with FSD Beta turned off, the phantom braking does not go away, so the software does not revert back to the pre-FSD Beta algorithms (radar?). I get phantom slowing, micro-braking, panic braking or just gentle slowing of several mph several times per minute at night, and at least once every mile or two during the day (highway driving).
You and me both....I thought my score of 88 was good. lolI don’t have FSD Beta yet, but if I did and was able to disable it for city driving (like you can for Navigate on Autopilot on highways), the only reason I would drop out is if it made other features worse. For example, if the FSD Beta introduced new issues with highway driving that weren’t there with regular FSD, which I could see happening if FSD Beta disabled radar that regular FSD uses, I might drop out.
With my current Safety Score of 93, I won’t have to make that decision anytime soon.
EVRider-FL
Active Member
I’m down to 90 now, so I don’t see FSD Beta in my future. I wish I had known that requesting the beta would stop you from getting software updates, because I might have passed. Opting out apparently doesn’t start the updates again. There’s another thread about that: FSD Beta Button....Now No Updates
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Why not reset and get a score of 100 before this Friday ?
Disenrolling or un-enrolling from the Beta button and Safety Score tracking
For those of you that do not have a perfect 100 safety score and have not gotten the 10.2 Beta software download, has anyone unenrolled from the Safety Scoring and tracking? Is it even possible to do? Can you re-enroll later on? I thought, incorrectly, that we'd have to drive ultra-cautiously...
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EVRider-FL
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Not worth the trouble. Until Tesla adjusts the sensitivity for what they consider hard braking and aggressive turning, I can’t drive normally and get a 100 anyway. Others have reported they started getting updates again after opting out, so I opted out a little while ago.
Have you tried doing the Camera Calibration again?
I ask because I was having massive issues with phantom braking where FSD Beta wasn't even usable. There were times I'd have to hold down the throttle a bit just to keep the darn thing from braking.
In a moment of desperation I did the Camera calibration option. I had been hesitant because I assumed it would take awhile, but it only took like 20-30min worth of driving or something like that.
Now it didn't completely eliminate phantom braking of the 3mph kind, but at least brought it down to less than insane levels.
If anything they should reverse the hard braking and aggressive turning.
If you don't have more than 10% hard braking, and aggressive turning than you're just not ready for FSD Beta.
I hardly ever hard brake as much as the FSD Beta does where I'm like "We're coming in a bit fast, don't you think we should down?".
Fernand
Active Member
I suppose that had I not squeezed by with a 99 I'd be furious and resentful too. Especially since I lost my 100% on absurdly invalid grounds. But now that I'm using it, I suspect there's a correlation that the great AI in the sky had figured out. It goes something like this: If you can't handle the constraints and the sheer frustration of the damned Safety Scoring, you'll be too frustrated driving in Beta Street "FSD" 
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
I wouldn't say its unusable. I had an incredibly impressive no interaction drive last night in my MX. Even though I think there is something in the computer architecture(bussing? Ram? ) that is slower at least in my X. The wheel can be quite jerky in the beta-- to me means slower architecture. Especially parking lots, making turns, etc., though it is super smooth like a fkn laser in the NOA highway stack. The videos I see from the 3/Y, the wheel seems to be pretty smooth mostly. I believe on my X, it seems to have more of an issue figuring out mapping than before the beta download. Too much info now?
Fernand
Active Member
I doubt it's about your MX's computer. Youtube videos don't focus on boring car jerks. The jerkiness can be due to many different factors. I have a Midrange Model 3 and jerkiness is inevitable with indecision. It's terrifying at times, because in addition wide turns can reach the opposite lane. In situations with major road curvature, unclear or missing lines/markers, limited visibility range due to non-flat terrain, no amount of faster processing can help, because processing follows discovery, and discovery can only occur as the car/sensors move forward.
Wanna see jerky? Try this intersection on the way up, or on the way down. In the latter case today my wife squealed and nearly soiled the (whole) cabin. A human driver who's never driven here will also perform poorly.
Wanna see jerky? Try this intersection on the way up, or on the way down. In the latter case today my wife squealed and nearly soiled the (whole) cabin. A human driver who's never driven here will also perform poorly.
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