Very much agree. I see a lot of people using smart summon as a reason FSD is far off. These truly are independent tasks/features.
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What's next after V10.0?
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I’m confused as to why people think smart summon is 100% disconnected from the planned city NoA feature. Honestly, if you can handle self driving in a parking lot, you should be like 90-95% of the way to city driving. Parking lots have it all:
- Narrow roads where cooperation with other cars is required.
- Pedestrians/pets/obstacles that can suddenly appear from behind/beside a parked car.
- Signs/markings that help control the flow of traffic.
- Cross traffic to be managed.
- Turns to be managed.
- Intersections for both vehicles and people to be managed.
I actually think city NoA would be easier since it can leverage mapping data to get a baseline view of the world.
- Narrow roads where cooperation with other cars is required.
- Pedestrians/pets/obstacles that can suddenly appear from behind/beside a parked car.
- Signs/markings that help control the flow of traffic.
- Cross traffic to be managed.
- Turns to be managed.
- Intersections for both vehicles and people to be managed.
I actually think city NoA would be easier since it can leverage mapping data to get a baseline view of the world.
Bold part is the point. Smart summon is actually a far more complicated task than NoA for city driving.
I'd love to see:
- "USB too slow" Sentry bug squashed for good
- Navigation enhancements (waypoints, routes, etc)
- Spotify/Slacker logins optionally tied to driver profile
willow_hiller
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To be fair, that message was the solution to a much worse bug.
Prior to the car detecting whether the USB was suitable/full, Autopilot was getting completely disabled without explanation. I'm guessing it was repeatedly trying to mount the USB and failing.
Well, just as silly as Autopark currently is. Not sure how it is in the US but here in the Netherlands Autopark usually doesn't work or works incorrectly. I was hoping V10 would have improved Autopark but that is unfortunately not the case.
In what ways is it a completely different feature? City driving requires to:
- avoid and drive around obstacles like bicyclists, scooters, garbage trucks, schoolbuses
- stop for pedestrians that are about to cross the street at a crossing
- positions itself correctly on roads without any markings
- ability to correctly take a corner without any markings
- do path planning by continuously scanning the environment to build a high-resolution map and translate and add the low res navigation data into this model
- recognize speedbumps
- avoid manholes
- apply correct rules for way of right
- read signs
I would pretty much say that these are the same things as Smart Summon is doing plus even more! I would even state that parking lots are very similar to most large cities in Europe which is chaotic and congested.
The path planning in a way is easier and harder as with Smart Summon the speed is maxed at 5m/h so stopping is easy. Smart Summon doesn't really need to take velocity into account were at city driving it must. So all of the above but then at 50, 70 and 80 km/h
There is certainly some overlap. You are correct. I guess the reason I say that they are separate is because I see "automatic city driving" as driving on actual roads, stopping at traffic lights, turning at intersections, none of which smart summon is intended to do. Smart Summon is just about moving in a short distance in a parking lot or driveway. I see their functions as different.
Eventually, I think Tesla will want to make Smart Summon more sophisticated and handle stop signs and such. But right now, Smart Summon is pretty basic. It is only really intended for moving your car a short distance in a parking lot or driveway. It is not intended for actually driving around a parking lot.
Emphasis mine.
Tesla disagrees with your assessment of the feature: “Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really.”
Given the garbage that was delivered to customers, you are more right than they are. That doesn’t change their intent, however.
willow_hiller
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Not to be the guy that reminds the professor homework is due, but in speaking of things that are meant to come after V10...
Do you all think we're still supposed to get a $1,000 FSD price increase?
Do you all think we're still supposed to get a $1,000 FSD price increase?
EVNow
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Musk predicts Smart Park in "hopefully 1-2 months" but says it might be "a little silly at first". Take it with a huge grain of salt of course.
I think we should take "silly at first" seriously.
Agreed. I take it to mean that it will either suck or be a very simple feature or both at least at first. Set your expectations accordingly.
I would like the ability to configure my main screen a little more.. I live in Phoenix and can't stand that those seat heater controls and defrost controls are there on the main screen all the time.. I have accidently started to heat my seat more than once, when I meant to lower the temp. why isn't there simply the temp, fan control, and the rest in the HVAC menu? drives me nuts.
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