Ah, yes. What exactly is typical? I've heard of "ideal" and "rated" but definitely not typical. And 308 rated? What units are those? Certainly not miles. Nobody has ever reported > 270 rated on an 85 kWh.
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Ah, yes. What exactly is typical? I've heard of "ideal" and "rated" but definitely not typical. And 308 rated? What units are those? Certainly not miles. Nobody has ever reported > 270 rated on an 85 kWh.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I believe, NA-spec cars use Rated Range for EPA testing and Ideal Range for lab environment testing. Euro-spec cars use Typical for what US-spec cars call Rated and are determined by the equivalent testing organization in Euro and Euro-spec Rated Range is Europe's lab environment testing.
Heh. Maybe they should just rename them all "usually", or "sometimes", or "our best guesstimate", or maybe have different calculations based on a selectable user driving profile like "get the hell out of my way driver (high wh/mi)", average driver, and "good luck getting this range, jokes on you! Haha!" driver lol.
SeminoleFSU
Voluntaryist
Father Bill
Member
I get about 234 -236 with a 90% charge. It all depends if I happen to have range mode engaged. It does seem to creeping up as it gets used to my driving style. Apparently I am not as leaden footed as the last owner:tongue:!
Peace,
Father Bill
Peace,
Father Bill
Thank you! This would explain the weirdness in figures I'm seeing. 308 miles is my 100% charge when I selected 'Rated' from my settings and have range-mode on. Switching to 'Typical' gives me 246 with range-mode on. The energy graph also has an 'Ideal' reading which is averaged based on my driving style, which can go as high as 999 miles if I coast to a stop at traffic lights.
gelden
Well-Known Member
roblab
Active Member
In the interest of scientific data collection based on a gauge which is based on your driving:
S85 VIN 00064, 80,000 miles, 35 months old, Pack Type A
90% gives me 222 miles. That's about 7% loss.
Time to trade it in!
S85 VIN 00064, 80,000 miles, 35 months old, Pack Type A
90% gives me 222 miles. That's about 7% loss.
Time to trade it in!
You can't simply compare American and Euro/Asian cars numbers.
US Ideal = 250Wh/mile = EU Rated
US Rated = 300Wh/mile
EU Typical = 320Wh/mile
Japan seems to be the same as EU.
So your 100% Typical is 262.4 miles in US numbers.
youlikeadajuice
P 9130
bollar
Disgruntled Member
Did a 100% this morning:
Range: Ideal: 294.9, Rated 254.9, Estimated: 234.6
And my latest 90%:
Range: Ideal: 265.2, Rated 229.2, Estimated: 199.5
33K miles
Range: Ideal: 294.9, Rated 254.9, Estimated: 234.6
And my latest 90%:
Range: Ideal: 265.2, Rated 229.2, Estimated: 199.5
33K miles
taurusking
Member
@bollar
How did you come up with 229.2? I mean in decimals...Most often after my 90% is done it shows rounded number like 229 or 228.
Thanks
How did you come up with 229.2? I mean in decimals...Most often after my 90% is done it shows rounded number like 229 or 228.
Thanks
bollar
Disgruntled Member
Depeche Mode
Member
2013 S85, 35k miles. 228 RM 90%. 254 RM 100%.
May I suggest those who haven't, to update this exhaustive database/spreadsheet-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t024bMoRiDPIDialGnuKPsg/edit#gid=1826236643
May I suggest those who haven't, to update this exhaustive database/spreadsheet-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t024bMoRiDPIDialGnuKPsg/edit#gid=1826236643
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