What's your 90%?

[d21mike]

Cold soaked battery is almost certainly not the issue then. I'd drop the pack to another low SoC and then charge it back to 100%. If it still shows "complete" when below 100% you probably have an issue with the pack.

I did my second charge starting at 7% and it only charged to 97% before stopping. I use TeslaFI so it shows what happened. I started at 10pm and it finished at 6:12am. Also, at the top of the page it shows the current charge and the charge limit. Since I drove it after the charging it is now 90% of 100%.

I placed a call to Tesla Service and I was told it would be sent to my local service center for review. Also, for those not part of my problem I did my first charge from 1% and it stopped at 99%. My goal was to drain my battery and then charge to 100% and both times it did not charge to 100%,

Charge %
90 / 100


Home 10:00 PM - 6:12 AM
8 Hours 11 Minutes Start - 7 %
End - 97 % Used - 74.5 kWh
Added - 64.4 kWh 86.4 % Avg Voltage - 238.53V
Max Voltage - 243V Avg Amps - 38.13A
Max Amps - 40A $ 9.69 227.39 8 Hours 30 Minutes 2,376.54

Tesla App Notification: Charging completed at 6:11am with batter at 244 mi. I have it set to miles so I can see my Rated Miles at 100% if it makes it there. My 99% showed 248 mi. At 100% my 75D should be 259 Rated Miles.

 

[Benjamin Brooks]

My Model 3 Long Range is 281 miles @ 90%.

 

[Kacey Green]

The brand new loaner 100D I'm in is 302 at 90% and 335 at 100%

 

[Ddowns2050]

S100D now with 26,000 miles has recently dropped over about 30 days from 300 to 294 miles at 90%. Don't know if the cold weather is effecting it or not.

 

[Kacey Green]

S100D now with 26,000 miles has recently dropped over about 30 days from 300 to 294 miles at 90%. Don't know if the cold weather is effecting it or not.

I don't think so, this one is getting those numbers at 19 degrees, even got 336 full the other night, my 90D dropped like crazy after I got it but is now pacing along with KMan Auto's

 

[Kacey Green]

According to Go Anywhere | Tesla my 2016 Model S 90D charged to 90% is about 9 miles short of a 2018 75D charged to 100% 250 vs 259, on the days where it charges to 250 instead of 247-249

 

[peakay]

Our P85 recently dropped to 199 at 90% charge. Is this grounds for a battery pack replacement?

 

[B-rad]

Our P85 recently dropped to 199 at 90% charge. Is this grounds for a battery pack replacement?

I'd be curious to know what the community has to say about this. I recently picked up a CPO 2013 P85 with 75k miles and my 90% is consistently 218 which I thought was a bit low.

 

[peakay]

I'd be curious to know what the community has to say about this. I recently picked up a CPO 2013 P85 with 75k miles and my 90% is consistently 218 which I thought was a bit low.

That seems just a touch low. Ours was consistently in the low 220s with 50k miles until this recent decline.

 

[bkp_duke]

Our P85 recently dropped to 199 at 90% charge. Is this grounds for a battery pack replacement?

227 to 230 here at 90% on two 2013 P85s.

199 makes me suspicious for a module failure within the pack. I would have Tesla look at it.

 

[tdjvfr]

'12 P85 90%= 229 100% = 255 rated. Has 45K miles

 

[Unpilot]

90%=302 miles 100 337 2017 MS100D with 2,400 miles

 

[wdolson]

I'd be curious to know what the community has to say about this. I recently picked up a CPO 2013 P85 with 75k miles and my 90% is consistently 218 which I thought was a bit low.

That works out to 242 miles at 100%. The P85 was EPA rated at 265 miles. That's an 8.6% loss. That is maybe a little on the high end of average, but it's well within normal range. KmanAuto (islandbay on the forum) has an early 2016 S 90D that has lost 13% of it's rated range.

For all the specs of all the versions:
Tesla Model S - Wikipedia

 

[scaesare]

My remanufactured D-rev pack (replaced the original failed B-rev pack in early 2017) on my 2013 is now seeing 230 miles @90%.

It was 231 when I first got the reman pack. Of course it's stupid cold here at the moment, so we'll see if that changes at all when sane temps return.

 

[Kacey Green]

I hope that if mine becomes eligible for replacement the issues with mine and KMan/Islandbay's 90 packs are resolved, I'd even be willing to pay an upgrade fee from 90 to whatever the current big battery is, be it 100, 120 whatever, I need the range, not the speed, though matching a corked or uncorked 100D in the process would be fun

 

[Unpilot]

That works out to 242 miles at 100%. The P85 was EPA rated at 265 miles. That's an 8.6% loss. That is maybe a little on the high end of average, but it's well within normal range. KmanAuto (islandbay on the forum) has an early 2016 S 90D that has lost 13% of it's rated range.

For all the specs of all the versions:
Tesla Model S - Wikipedia

Why no HP figures for 100D?

 

[Kacey Green]

Why no HP figures for 100D?

I was thinking the same thing

 

[wdolson]

It may just be nobody bothered to edit the chart in a while. Wikipedia is a volunteer effort.

 

[B-rad]

That works out to 242 miles at 100%. The P85 was EPA rated at 265 miles. That's an 8.6% loss. That is maybe a little on the high end of average, but it's well within normal range. KmanAuto (islandbay on the forum) has an early 2016 S 90D that has lost 13% of it's rated range.

For all the specs of all the versions:
Tesla Model S - Wikipedia

Appreciate the response, wdolson. Just curious, what lost % should someone be concerned for a sub 100k mile car? Better yet, are there specific numbers that Tesla covers under warranty? Or is it purely case by case?

 

[wdolson]

Appreciate the response, wdolson. Just curious, what lost % should someone be concerned for a sub 100k mile car? Better yet, are there specific numbers that Tesla covers under warranty? Or is it purely case by case?

I think Tesla looks at actual failure of cells or modules for warranty repair as opposed to just a general degradation of all the cells over time. Decline in capacity of all the cells is normal wear and tear whereas an outright failure is a warranty issue.

Here is some real world data on battery degradation
Tesla Model S battery degradation data