True, this is one of our major concerns. Hoping the EV's from the luxury makers dont go the ICE route and depreciate like they do. But the ride comfort on the iX from what little I have experienced with the test rides, it is pure BMW luxury. I have driven lots of luxury cars over the years but nothing even comes close on how good the iX was. Damn the iX looks, would have one on order if we can stomach that ..
For the price, can you show me something that is as good as the Rivian? Well I am an early reservation holder so I did get a deal. I am actually paying almost the same for my MY, what I will for my R1S.
We have no clue how 'good' the Rivian is. They've delivered, what, 2,000 cars? Let me know when there are thousands on the road and we start to see some accumulated miles and what crops up then.
I think it's safe to say the design of the Rivian is at least good, possibly excellent, based on all the driving we've seen from various reporters. Whether the workmanship hits the same level when they finally get to mass producing them is yet to be seen. I'm sure hoping it does.
But it does make you wonder...when they couldn’t raise their prices...did they cut costs
I certainly hope they are good, as I really like the R1S. But just going back to what Elon said about bringing the M3 to production, that it was hell, and seeing the issues that Rivian is having with their first vehicle, I just hope they get it right.
It’s a first production car. I wouldn’t keep your hopes high. Be ready fir recalls and extended repairs, etc.
I dont see any reason why Rivian wouldn't be fine. Its easy to confuse Rivian with a typical EV startup. The reality is they have been around for a full decade.. and spent half of that time perfecting the truck/SUV you now see being delivered to customers. I personally remember seeing the R1T truck way back at the NY Auto show in 2018. And while I do prefer avoiding the first production year of any vehicle (big believer in letting those first bugs get worked out).. Im totally fine with the 2nd year production of any vehicle. You figure no matter how much a company tests a new vehicle.. its not until it gets into customer hands where they learn exactly what works right (and what works wrong) in the real world. This is exactly why I own a 2021 Model Y (didn't want the 1st year 2020 production due to bugs).. and previously owned a 2018 CRV (didn't want the 1st year 2017 production due to bugs).
I mostly agree, but we can evaluate what is present in the current Rivian and it looks good. Where Rivian is really behind Tesla is software and charging network. Also, I don't see the path for Rivian to a large consumer vehicle maker. I don't see how Rivian can duplicate Tesla's trajectory. It's too late in the game.
I agree with this sentiment. I also think both brands have an excellent product and technology overall.. which will attract investors from non-typical whales. Amazon is already heavily invested in Rivian. Wouldn't surprise me to see Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft jump in bed with Rivian and/or Lucid.. or to see them bought out by some major automaker like the VW/Porsche or Fiat/Chrysler group.
I’m genuinely curious, what’s with all the buzz around ID Buzz? Are people really this excited to ditch tesla and drive a mini bus? There’s not that much space inside either. That looks to me like what taxi would be in the next 5 years.
There are no electric mini/micro vans currently, so a totally un-served segment. Some people want this kind of vehicle, and if so this is the only choice coming to market any time soon.
The extra height in the Buzz makes all the difference for sleeping in the car, if you have two people. In a MY, the narrow part is no wider than a twin mattress. In something like a Buzz, you can arrange (if VW doesn't already provide) a shelf above the wheel wells that still has enough height above to sleep on. Now you have something wider than a double bed. So for a certain segment of aging hippies, who no longer enjoy sleeping in a tent when it's cold, it's a more convenient (and more efficient) option than towing a trailer. Anyway that's the main thing for me. Other similar options (R1S, Canoo) have the same advantage, of course.
