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What's your S 75 range at 90%?

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It’s within the realm of reason. Hard to define what “a little low” even is since there’s no warranty for degradation whatsoever.

I understand.

I have my window sticker that shows brand new "should be" 249 so 90% would be 224. So I guess a 18%ish loss in 4 years. But mine seems to be one of the worst on this thread...
 
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94K miles, lots of drives early on discharging from 90->10% but not in the past three years.

90% is 208 miles, 100% is 228-229 miles, or about 11.5% from the original 259 miles for S75D.

I've gained range in the past year. Doing just short city drives caused the rated range to drop under 200. Then I did weekly drive that discharged to 20% and back up to 80 or 90%, and the range crept back up. Perhaps it was the newer software updates too, but this happened during 2020. At one point the rated range dropped to 192-194, so that's a noticeable gain from that level.
 
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Just charged my July build 2017 S75D, FSD upgrade , MCU 2 upgraded , firmware 2021.4.18.2
100% 392km/243 miles at 100% Usually only charge to 70% and have charged to 100% about 20 times in 4 years. Also rarely used Supercharger, mostly home charge with Tesla Wall Charger at 11.5 kw ,48 amp ,240 volt.
 
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I have a 2016 S60 that I purchased new, and then upgraded/updated to S75. Range went to as high as 234, but not higher. I recently purchased a used 2016 S75 from Tesla and the ad showed range of 249 (EPA). I called the rep to confirm and he said verified that this was the EPA range. I purchased the car, and after charging all night, it only charged up to 220; same as my original S60/75. I have been discussing with Corporate and my SC, and what I am starting to realize that this is a specific issue to 2016 S75 RWDs (new facelift). Before a certain build date, these drivetrains had a max of around 234 miles. With degradation, they are now in the 220 range. These batteries/drivetrains never could get to 249. The only problem is IF Tesla advertised it as such when they sold you the car. In the case of my first car (S60 to S75), I knew exactly what I was buying, so no issues. In the case of second, Tesla led me to believe that this car had the EPA range of 249. So, even with some degradation, I was expecting 230-235 in real world. Instead, its a 220, but not because of degradation, but bc it was never 249, but 234 to begin with. Again I believe this issue is specific to 2016 S75 RWD (new facelift, so 2016.5 I suppose).
 
I’m not sure from your post what is leading you to believe that early S75s didn’t actually charge to 249 when new?

As for the second car you just bought, did you read the fine print?

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I have a 2016 S60 that I purchased new, and then upgraded/updated to S75. Range went to as high as 234, but not higher. I recently purchased a used 2016 S75 from Tesla and the ad showed range of 249 (EPA). I called the rep to confirm and he said verified that this was the EPA range. I purchased the car, and after charging all night, it only charged up to 220; same as my original S60/75. I have been discussing with Corporate and my SC, and what I am starting to realize that this is a specific issue to 2016 S75 RWDs (new facelift). Before a certain build date, these drivetrains had a max of around 234 miles. With degradation, they are now in the 220 range. These batteries/drivetrains never could get to 249. The only problem is IF Tesla advertised it as such when they sold you the car. In the case of my first car (S60 to S75), I knew exactly what I was buying, so no issues. In the case of second, Tesla led me to believe that this car had the EPA range of 249. So, even with some degradation, I was expecting 230-235 in real world. Instead, its a 220, but not because of degradation, but bc it was never 249, but 234 to begin with. Again I believe this issue is specific to 2016 S75 RWD (new facelift, so 2016.5 I suppose).
Mine showed 242 once I upgraded from 70 to 75 after a few thousand miles. The battery had degraded quickly during its early months. It had already lost 5 miles in 70 guise so one would assume it could have shown 247 as a new 75, not far off the 249 mark. Out of curiosity, what was your odometer when you upgraded from 60 to 75 and saw 234?
 
Mine showed 242 once I upgraded from 70 to 75 after a few thousand miles. The battery had degraded quickly during its early months. It had already lost 5 miles in 70 guise so one would assume it could have shown 247 as a new 75, not far off the 249 mark. Out of curiosity, what was your odometer when you upgraded from 60 to 75 and saw 234?
Hmmm. I think I upgraded around 10-15k miles
 
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