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What's your S 75 range at 90%?

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August 2017 S75 currently @42,000mi

Below @100% charge:
December 23, 2017: 242 miles
March 5, 2022: 222miles

below @ 90%
April 11 2020: 205mi
September 19 2020: 203mi
February 8th 2021: 200mi
March 5, 2022: 200mi

Considering I’ve only supercharged a handful of times overall miles seem to be slightly below average. The bright side is that degradation has leveled off.
 
2017 Model S 75
10/17 Build
26k miles
90%: 203mi
100%: 225mi

Had Tesla service run a diagnostic for battery health, and they sent me this:

“Hello, this is Tesla service. We have
reviewed your log data and found no
hardware issue for your battery. Also we ran
a fleet comparison and found your battery is within the fleet average when compared to like vehicles. The estimated range is a
calculated average that can become
miscalculated for several reasons and does
not always represent battery capacity.
Factors that affect range are charging
habits, age, supercharging habits and
temperature. We recommend to charge up
to 90% and let the vehicle drain to 20-30%.
Here is a link for more info on range https://
www.tesla.com/support/range.
 
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2017 Model S 75
10/17 Build
26k miles
90%: 203mi
100%: 225mi

Had Tesla service run a diagnostic for battery health, and they sent me this:

“Hello, this is Tesla service. We have
reviewed your log data and found no
hardware issue for your battery. Also we ran
a fleet comparison and found your battery is within the fleet average when compared to like vehicles. The estimated range is a
calculated average that can become
miscalculated for several reasons and does
not always represent battery capacity.
Factors that affect range are charging
habits, age, supercharging habits and
temperature. We recommend to charge up
to 90% and let the vehicle drain to 20-30%.
Here is a link for more info on range https://
www.tesla.com/support/range.
Congrats, you probably have one of the better ones. My 75 is around 220 @ 100%.
 
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so i was arguing with a fellow model s owner who said he finds no fault in tesla canning the miles if its for safety..He said...will you go back to the ICE car maker and say that they advertised as 30mpg and you consistently only get 24? Of course its not the same thing..and he continued to argue for telsa to keep doing it if its means cars wont blow up or start fires.
My view was its my car and that tesla shouldnt mess with the mileage on it because a small percent has issues..i paid for it so its mine and they should offer it but let the OWNER decide.He then rebutted that of my car catches on fire its my fault.
Anyhow it was like communism vs freedom
 
so i was arguing with a fellow model s owner who said he finds no fault in tesla canning the miles if its for safety..He said...will you go back to the ICE car maker and say that they advertised as 30mpg and you consistently only get 24? Of course its not the same thing..and he continued to argue for telsa to keep doing it if its means cars wont blow up or start fires.
My view was its my car and that tesla shouldnt mess with the mileage on it because a small percent has issues..i paid for it so its mine and they should offer it but let the OWNER decide.He then rebutted that of my car catches on fire its my fault.
Anyhow it was like communism vs freedom
From how I see it, the nerfing of the battery pack capacity and Supercharging rate is correlated to the reduction in battery fires post recent Supercharging circa late 2018-early 2019. I recall hearing about 4 fires around that time ranging from China, US, and Europe, which have significantly tapered after the mid-2019 software update. However, we have to cautiously say it's correlated and not the cause because so far no one has shown any evidence outside of making observations that one has something to do with the other. Anyways, if Tesla produced battery packs that were unstable and could injury they would have a major products liability issue on their hands and I don't fault them if they made steps to correct that. Though if the correction caused any harm or inconvenience to the customer then I would think some compensation should be made to those customers. Others assumed that the nerfing of the battery pack was due to retard the degradation rate of the battery. Some felt Tesla was attempting to dodge warranty claims while others think the degradation could lead to safety issues.

It seems like I don't agree with either one of you and I hope you're okay with that. Automakers are usually careful in stating their vehicles can achieve up to a certain mpg per EPA testing and that your mileage may vary. Some manufacturers were less careful in their statements and have lost in court (cough cough...Honda). So my point is that a manufacturer states an expected range based on a regulatory agency test which is different from a products liability issue such as a potential fire. Since Tesla has not been forthcoming with why they reduced the utility of the battery pack nor warned of the consequences of operating under on pre-nerf sofware, I think the consumer should be in the clear of liability in the event a fire occurs.

Finally communism vs freedom is not the analogy you're looking for. I think you're conflating communism with authoritarianism, which is the opposite of individual freedom. Communism is the collective share of communal property as a oppose to private ownership. It should also be pointed out that communism is an ideal and has never existed throughout history. It is often confused with socialism which quickly takes the form of authoritarian socialism because the power balance between the central state and citizen perpetually leans to the state.
 
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From how I see it, the nerfing of the battery pack capacity and Supercharging rate is correlated to the reduction in battery fires post recent Supercharging circa late 2018-early 2019. I recall hearing about 4 fires around that time ranging from China, US, and Europe, which have significantly tapered after the mid-2019 software update. However, we have to cautiously say it's correlated and not the cause because so far no one has shown any evidence outside of making observations that one has something to do with the other. Anyways, if Tesla produced battery packs that were unstable and could injury they would have a major products liability issue on their hands and I don't fault them if they made steps to correct that. Though if the correction caused any harm or inconvenience to the customer then I would think some compensation should be made to those customers. Others assumed that the nerfing of the battery pack was due to retard the degradation rate of the battery. Some felt Tesla was attempting to dodge warranty claims while others think the degradation could lead to safety issues.

It seems like I don't agree with either one of you and I hope you're okay with that. Automakers are usually careful in stating their vehicles can achieve up to a certain mpg per EPA testing and that your mileage may vary. Some manufacturers were less careful in their statements and have lost in court (cough cough...Honda). So my point is that a manufacturer states an expected range based on a regulatory agency test which is different from a products liability issue such as a potential fire. Since Tesla has not been forthcoming with why they reduced the utility of the battery pack nor warned of the consequences of operating under on pre-nerf sofware, I think the consumer should be in the clear of liability in the event a fire occurs.

Finally communism vs freedom is not the analogy you're looking for. I think you're conflating communism with authoritarianism, which is the opposite of individual freedom. Communism is the collective share of communal property as a oppose to private ownership. It should also be pointed out that communism is an ideal and has never existed throughout history. It is often confused with socialism which quickly takes the form of authoritarian socialism because the power balance between the central state and citizen perpetually leans to the state.
Well stated(better then i did..lol)
I personally think tesla is trying to cover its arse with nerfing the battery and to me thats lame and not very good for the owner. I mean how far will they take it if other fires occur? Nerf the battery to 200 miles full charge on the 75d cars? l or less? It seems something out of our control really in the end. We all like new upgrades in the software but we also know we are at their whim as to whats really happening in the software: ie: battery nerfing.

The slowing charging time at the strongest supercharger is also stoopid to me as people dont leave it on SC overnight and usually are around the car for the time they charge there.. what like 15 minutes to 2 hrs max maybe?
 
Hello Guys, I am in a search for Tesla Model S , I habe found one S 75 year 2017 from a thirdparty. The car has 200000 km, and it cost 31500€, it is very cheap for the curently prices. My concern is that the range is only 240 km with about 80% charged battery. Is there anyway I can find if is a problem with the Batery ?
 
My concern is that the range is only 240 km with about 80% charged battery. Is there anyway I can find if is a problem with the Batery ?
Hard to say without more information, but that’s very low. When new the car should have displayed ~400km at 100%, 320km at 80%, so that’s about 25% degradation.

I would ask the seller to charge completely to 100% and show you the rated range then.

The Tesla battery warranty will be if no use to you unless the car starts displaying errors or there is some other indicator the battery is defective.
 
I sold my 2016 75D last month. It had 107000 miles on it. Original HV battery and DUs.
90% was 207 miles
100% was ~230 miles
The same figures at the time of purchase were 232 and 259 miles respectively, meaning under 12% degradation.

My charging practices were to typically charge to 80% or 90%. Early in its ownership when I did a long commute (~200 miles round trip) I used to char to 90% every night and run it down, SC multiple times a week (thanks, FUSC) and overall did about 65k worth of supercharging. Every now and then I'd charge to 100% before a long trip. It was always parked in a garage, but I didn't necessarily baby it - it was resilient and got a lot of time on the road.
 
I sold my 2016 75D last month. It had 107000 miles on it. Original HV battery and DUs.
90% was 207 miles
100% was ~230 miles
The same figures at the time of purchase were 232 and 259 miles respectively, meaning under 12% degradation.

My charging practices were to typically charge to 80% or 90%. Early in its ownership when I did a long commute (~200 miles round trip) I used to char to 90% every night and run it down, SC multiple times a week (thanks, FUSC) and overall did about 65k worth of supercharging. Every now and then I'd charge to 100% before a long trip. It was always parked in a garage, but I didn't necessarily baby it - it was resilient and got a lot of time on the road.
65k worth of supercharging??? Is that $ or miles ?